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In March 2025, in the thread "Re: OT, out", Umm asked the members: "Do you think it is because America is made up of magical soil that makes businesses based in America magically profitable?" This week it is put to everyone again. The button below opens the small thread re-asking it - read what others have said so far, then give your own answer as an ordinary reply.
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Author: Lambo ✧✺🐝  😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Operation Charlotte's Web
Date: 11/16/25 7:29 PM
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Ok so we at least agree that there has as of right now been no judicial ruling that any of the 170 detentions or arrests

No, we do not agree. You want to hide behind "no court ruling".

The court ruled that Mr. Brown’s Fourth Amendment rights were violated when Monroe County Sheriff Rick Ramsay illegally detained him in April 2018. Mr. Brown was held on an ICE immigration detainer, which had incorrectly identified Mr. Brown as a deportable Jamaican immigrant. The court’s ruling explains that ICE lacked probable cause to issue the detainer in the first place, and the Sheriff’s office could not rely on the detainer to ignore the obvious evidence that Mr. Brown was a citizen: “MCSO cannot abdicate its legal responsibility and turn a blind eye to this information.”

The decision comes amid increasing reports that ICE has arrested, detained, and even deported U.S. citizens as ICE engages in mass deportations. State police have done the same; in Florida, SB 4-C – which makes it a felony for certain undocumented people to enter the state based solely on their immigration history – put U.S. citizens at further risk of arrest and deportation. Last month, a U.S. citizen was wrongfully arrested under the law by local law enforcement who suspected he was undocumented, underscoring the dangers of immigration enforcement by local authorities and causing a federal judge to reiterate that enforcement of the law is currently prohibited because it is likely unconstitutional.

Quotes from co-counsel are as follows:

“We have seen the ICE detainer system fail time and again, but the County still chose to put Mr. Brown through this nightmare,” said Cody Wofsy, deputy project director of the ACLU’s Immigrants’ Rights Project. “At a moment in which we are seeing a raft of unlawful immigration arrests of citizens by federal and local authorities, this decision is a key reminder that the Fourth Amendment safeguards us all.”

aclu.org - Federal court rules in favor of u s citizen illegally detained for deportation by florida sheriff.

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