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$20M, all from foreign sources. FARA. The democrats want to live by it, sooo...

https://oversight.house.gov/wp-content/uploads/202...

This Third Bank Records Memorandum serves to inform Members of the Biden family's
relationships with certain foreign entities and individuals in Russia, Ukraine, and Kazakhstan.
The Committee has subpoenaed six different banks and received thousands of records in
response. The Committee's subpoenas were tailored to specific individuals and companies that
engaged in business activities with Biden family members and their business associates. The
Committee has not yet subpoenaed bank records of members of the Biden family.

Wow, bank records. Wonder what's in them?

Committee Staff is Releasing Payments from Russia, Ukraine, and Kazakhstan that
Occurred During Joe Biden's Vice Presidency: The Committee has now identified over
$20 million in payments from foreign sources to the Biden family and their business
associates.

Not a smidge of corruption. No sir.

Dope1: Wow, bank records. Wonder what's in them?

Well, it took all of 30 seconds to find this in the statement: "The Committee has not yet subpoenaed bank records of members of the Biden family."

So, no evidence.

Again.

The statement says: "The Committee's subpoenas were tailored to specific individuals and companies that engaged in business activities with Biden family members and their business associates."

Umm, so what? No doubt the Biden family has done business with lots of folks, and perfectly legal business, at that.

Bottom line: there's absolutely nothing implicating Joe Biden.

During Joe Biden's vice presidency, Hunter Biden sold him as 'the brand' to reap millions from oligarchs in Kazakhstan, Russia, and Ukraine. It appears no real services were provided other than access to the Biden network, including Joe Biden himself. And Hunter Biden seems to have delivered. This is made clear by meals at Café Milano where then-Vice President Joe Biden dined with oligarchs from around the world who had sent money to his son. It's clear Joe Biden knew about his son's business dealings and allowed himself to be 'the brand' sold to enrich the Biden family while he was Vice President of the United States. The House Oversight Committee will continue to follow the money trail and obtain witness testimony to determine whether foreign actors targeted the Bidens, President Biden is compromised or corrupt, and our national security is threatened.

The only question left is, which country owns him the most?
Given that we're doing not-much-to-very little to counter China's VERY aggressive moves, I'd say we have our answer.

Good idea to change the subject...

You were getting owned on the republicans are racists thread.

Obviously this thread is just more BS.

No evidence of foul play.

Nice try.

Maybe if Biden rapes a few people then you'll support him?

Dope1:This is made clear by meals at Café Milano where then-Vice President Joe Biden dined with oligarchs from around the world who had sent money to his son.

Again, whatcha' think ya' got there? Joe Biden had dinner with oligarchs? Tell us which law this violated?

Your best case scenario is that some oligrachs -- not governments, not politicians -- tried to buy influence with the Obama/Biden administration through Hunter Biden and GOT ABSOFREAKINLUTELY NOTHING.

How stupid were they?

And how stupid are you for thinking this amounts to something?


Dope1: Given that we're doing not-much-to-very little to counter China's VERY aggressive moves, I'd say we have our answer.

Front page article, today's New York Times: Biden to Restrict Investments in China, Citing National Security Threats.

The Biden administration plans on Wednesday to issue new restrictions on American investments in certain advanced industries in China, according to people familiar with the deliberations, a move that supporters have described as necessary to protect national security but that will undoubtedly rankle Beijing. https://www.nytimes.com/

GOOD.

*ANY* politician that hoodwinks, compromises, and steals - - is ok in my book.

Voting for a rapist? Bill Clinton voters know about that.

Attacking victims? Hillary Clinton voters are good with it.

Maybe if Trump fondles women and girls in his official governmental capacity and turns into a White Liberal Male - he can enjoy your protections too.

Either way, here's to *any* politician who compromise your "democracy".

It's been too long since a big war. My hope is Biden and NeoCons can get another one going. They are trying so hard to cause one.

Draft out of Ivy League, tithe the 401Ks when it happens.

America's cities? Fair targets no different than Hiroshima was.

Maybe if Biden rapes a few people then you'll support him?

You should ask Biden's daughter what happened during the times the lecherous pig
forced his way in while she was in the shower.

It's been too long since a big war. My hope is Biden and NeoCons can get another one going. They are trying so hard to cause one.

Don't worry. When Biden wins in 2024 we'll be in a shooting war with the Chinese by 2027.
And better yet, the US Navy can barely drive their ships without running into stuff in the harbor, much less the high seas.

You should ask Biden's daughter what happened during the times the lecherous pig
forced his way in while she was in the shower.

Don't know who made the comment you're responding to, but Biden's been there and done that:
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-52462113

Don't worry. When Biden wins in 2024 we'll be in a shooting war with the Chinese by 2027.
And better yet, the US Navy can barely drive their ships without running into stuff in the harbor, much less the high seas.

Yep, thanks to commander in chief Biden's failure to lead and keep our armed forces in tiptop shape and receive the best training, they are instead being trained to go woke.

'US Navy hires active-duty drag queen to be face of recruitment drive'

https://nypost.com/2023/05/03/us-navy-appointed-ac...

Dope1: Don't know who made the comment you're responding to, but Biden's been there and done that:

We already went over Russian defector Tara Reade in another thread: https://www.shrewdm.com/MB?pid=112599529

In addition to the New York Times doing a deep dive on the accusation, the Washington Post did as well and came to the same conclusion: there's no 'there' there: https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/sexual-ass...

Meanwhile, you continue to ignore over two dozen sexual assaults or inappropriate sexual behavior by Donald John and his being found liable for sexual assault by a jury of his peers (and two judges who have said it's perfectly correct to call Trump a rapist).

commonone: it's perfectly correct to call Trump a rapist).

'Ashley Biden suffered from sexual and drug addictions and wrote in her diary that her dad would often take showers with her.'

What would you call Joe Biden who would force himself in the shower with his daughter?

Don't know who made the comment you're responding to, but Biden's been there and done that:


'Tara Reade: What are the sex attack allegations against Joe Biden?'

Yep, good ol' Joe, the touchy feely, sniffy pig.

Joe's handlers, the left and the MSM made sure Tara went away in a hurry, I hear
Tera's life was threaten too.

No wonder she finally fled to Russia, leaving her tormentors behind.

Umm, so what? No doubt the Biden family has done business with lots of folks, and perfectly legal business, at that. - commonone

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Good to know. The records so far have shown foreign government payments first went to twenty or so shell companies and these companies shuffled funds between them before distributing to various members of the Biden family.

So far no one, AFAIK, has been able to identify any product or service that these companies produced that these foreign entities or anyone for that matter would want to buy. Perhaps you could enlighten us on the nature of these products.

...came to the same conclusion: there's no 'there' there:

For the MAGAs, there is no need to have a 'there' there. They just manufacture shite.

commonone: Meanwhile, you continue to ignore over two dozen sexual assaults or inappropriate sexual behavior by Donald John and his being found liable for sexual assault by a jury of his peers (and two judges who have said it's perfectly correct to call Trump a rapist).

And you commonone continue to ignore the lecherous disgusting pig, Joe Biden forcing his way into the shower a number of times while his daughter was there taking a shower.

So far no one, AFAIK, has been able to identify any product or service that these companies produced that these foreign entities or anyone for that matter would want to buy.

So far neither Jordan nor Comer have connected any of that money went to Joe Biden.

Perhaps you could enlighten us on the nature of these products.

Not our job. Wake us up when you find the metaphorical stained blue dress. Until then happy hunting.

And you commonone continue to ignore the lecherous disgusting pig, Joe Biden forcing his way into the shower a number of times while his daughter was there taking a shower.

The only person defending anyone is *this guy*, who is desperately trying to deflect everything that comes out about the Biden crime family. Hypocrite.

Not our job. Wake us up when you find the metaphorical stained blue dress. Until then happy hunting. - commonone

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OK, so you don't know either. No surprise there. No one knows. Whatever the Biden's various enterprises were selling, with all those bank records yet to sift through and then Biden's bank records themselves to subpoena, we will all find out.... drip... drip... drip...

OK, so you don't know either. No surprise there. No one knows. Whatever the Biden's various enterprises were selling, with all those bank records yet to sift through and then Biden's bank records themselves to subpoena, we will all find out.... drip... drip... drip...

Actually, we do know.
https://oversight.house.gov/release/comer-releases...


In Spring 2014, a Ukrainian oligarch placed Archer and Biden on the Burisma board of directors and agreed to pay each of them $1 million per year. Then-Vice President Joe Biden visited Ukraine soon after they joined Burisma.

and

In April 2014, a Kazakhstani Oligarch Wired the Exact Price of Biden's Sportscar to a Bank Account Used by Archer and Biden: In February 2014, Hunter Biden met with Kenes Rakishev at a Washington, D.C. hotel. Rakishev worked closely with the prime minister of Kazakhstan, Karim Massimov. In April, Rakishev, a Kazakhstani oligarch, wired $142,300 to Rosemont Seneca Bohai. The next day, a payment was made from Rosemont Seneca Bohai for a sportscar for Hunter Biden in the amount of $142,300. Archer and Biden then arranged for Burisma executives to visit Kazakhstan in June 2014 to evaluate a three-way deal among Burisma, a Chinese state-owned company, and the government of Kazakhstan.



The $20 million bought access, exclusion from the Oligarch Naughty List, and Lord knows what else they talked about over dinner and visits.

Drip.
Dripppp...
Driiiiiipppppppppppp...

bighairymike: So far no one, AFAIK, has been able to identify any product or service that these companies produced that these foreign entities or anyone for that matter would want to buy.

Jeez, buddy, we went over this.

These were the BIG REVEALS by the House Committee on Oversight and Accountability Chairman James Comer's STAR WITNESS, Devon Archer (quotes are his):

1. Helping out a domestic Ukrainian gas producer [Burisma] "as a bulwark against Russia -- Russian aggression."

2. Provide Burisma with the "value-add" of the "the ability to navigate Washington."

3. Give the Ukanians "the illusion of access to his father."


Did you ever ask yourself why congreeman James Comer didn't even bother to show up for the Devon Archer testimony?


Here's the transcript, again: https://oversight.house.gov/wp-content/uploads/202...

LurkerMom: And you commonone continue to ignore the lecherous disgusting pig, Joe Biden forcing his way into the shower a number of times while his daughter was there taking a shower.

Ashley Biden is an adult woman who seems to have a fine relationship with her father. She has never acknowledged anything written in a diary and, as far as I know, never had a bad thing to say about either of her parents.

Ashley Biden: "If my family weren't so close, it wouldn't be so hard, but we are. My family is my safe space. So that was the hardest thing: I couldn't understand how (a) things were said that were not true, and (b) how people could be so cruel just because of whether they liked my father or not."

Sounds like she's talking about you.


On being the 'first daughter': https://www.townandcountrymag.com/society/politics...

And you commonone continue to ignore the lecherous disgusting pig, Joe Biden forcing his way into the shower a number of times while his daughter was there taking a shower.

For God's aske LM...get out of the bubble!

The $20 million bought access, exclusion from the Oligarch Naughty List, and Lord knows what else they talked about over dinner and visits.

Drip.
Dripppp...
Driiiiiipppppppppppp... - Dope

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The icing on the cake will be the bank deposit records for the final step in process - specifically transfers from one of the 20 shell companies into one of Biden Family bank accounts.

Example,

The subpoenaed bank records show that State Energy HK Limited, a firm affiliated with CEFC China Energy, wired $3 million to Robinson Walker, LLC on March 1, 2017 ' less than two months after then-vice president Joe Biden left office. The following day, Robinson Walker, LLC wired $1,065,000 to European Energy and Infrastructure Group in Abu Dhabi, a company associated with James Gilliar, another business partner to Hunter Biden.

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At least nine Biden family members received payments, according to committee chairman James Comer. That includes Hunter Biden; James Biden; James Biden's wife, Sara Jones Biden; the late Beau Biden's wife, Hallie Biden; Hunter Biden's ex-wife, Kathleen Buhle; Hunter Biden's wife, Melissa Cohen; and 'three children of the president's son and the president's brother.'

Let's say, for example, we get the bank records for Kathleen Buhle and they show a transfer directly from the European Energy and Infrastructure Group into her account. Won't it be fun to subpoena her and under oath ask her, "What did you do for them to earn that money and did you declare it as income and pay the taxes due?

You know those records exist and Comer will find them unless the process can be strung out until the next time the dems control the House which may very well be a long time. Keep on Drippin...

bighairymike: ...to European Energy and Infrastructure Group in Abu Dhabi, a company associated with James Gilliar, another business partner to Hunter Biden.

The Wall Street Journal investigated this back in 2020 and interviewed Gilliar. The Washington Post invesitgated it, as well.

"The venture . . . never received proposed funds from the Chinese company or completed any deals, according to people familiar with the matter," Journal reporters Andrew Duehren and James Areddy wrote. "Corporate records reviewed by the Wall Street Journal show no role for Joe Biden." The reporters also quoted another partner in the venture, James Gilliar, who said he was "unaware of any involvement at anytime of the former vice president."

You're being lied to. Comer has nothing but nonsense and you're gobbling it up with a spoon.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/media/a-w...

commonone: Ashley Biden is an adult woman who seems to have a fine relationship with her father. She has never acknowledged anything written in a diary and, as far as I know, never had a bad thing to say about either of her parents.

Yes she has,
'An audio recording of the woman who called Project Veritas's tip line on Sept. 3, 2020, said her family knew the people who rented out the house and that Ashley Biden stayed in one of the bedrooms and left behind a diary. On the voicemail, the unidentified woman said, 'The diary is pretty crazy. I think it's worth taking a look at. It's not a joke, it's real. I'd love to get it in your hands.'

It sure was 'crazy.' Ashley Biden suffered from sexual and drug addictions and wrote in her diary that her dad would often take showers with her. She also wrote that she would wait until late at night to take showers to avoid her dad slipping into the shower with her.

https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/victoria-taf...

Next up commonone will denigrate the source etc etc etc

https://opoyi.com/usa/ashley-biden-addiction-us-pr...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0W1T21M3UMo


https://www.elle.com/culture/a43251490/ashley-bide...

There are more links if you care to search for them.

As for Ashley and her pervert father getting along together now? Good for her getting her
life back on track and maybe forgiving that dirty old man.

"The venture . . . never received proposed funds from the Chinese company or completed any deals, according to people familiar with the matter," Journal reporters Andrew Duehren and James Areddy wrote. "Corporate records reviewed by the Wall Street Journal show no role for Joe Biden." The reporters also quoted another partner in the venture, James Gilliar, who said he was "unaware of any involvement at anytime of the former vice president." - co


You surely realize my example was made up to illustrate the mechanics of obfuscation, so your rebuttal that the WSJ and WaPo cleared Joe Biden is not germane.

Let's say, for example, we get the bank records for Kathleen Buhle and they show a transfer directly from the European Energy and Infrastructure Group into her account.

That appears the purpose of the Biden Family web of shell companies to obscure the true sources and end points of funds. We are getting some evidence of the first few links in the distribution chain.
But the end points are yet to be determined and may or may not include the big guy himself. Sooner or later the deposit records to the actual accounts of Biden family members will come out and the source of each deposit identified. My speculation is that many of the shell companies will be the payor and then the recipient can explain under oath how those funds were earned. Fun times. drip... drip... drip...

bighairymike: You surely realize my example was made up...

Umm, why would I realize your example was just "made up"? You used actual names and wrote this:

The icing on the cake will be the bank deposit records for the final step in process - specifically transfers from one of the 20 shell companies into one of Biden Family bank accounts.

Example,

The subpoenaed bank records show...


bighairymike: That appears the purpose of the Biden Family web of shell companies to obscure the true sources and end points of funds.

Is that the same purpose of the 500+ Trump Organization shell companies?

bighairymike: You surely realize my example was made up...

Umm, why would I realize your example was just "made up"? You used actual names and wrote this: - co

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Sorry, you are right, I should have made it clear this was a made-up example for purpose of illustration only.

Sorry, you are right, I should have made it clear this was a made-up example for purpose of illustration only.

ROTFLMAO.

And yet, he invented that whole stream of his to "refute" your made up example.

How fitting. And also, how telling.

LurkerMom: Ashley Biden suffered from sexual and drug addictions and wrote in her diary...

Umm, so you're claiming a drug addict wrote something in a diary and it just has to be the God's honest truth because drug addicts are so reliable, is that it?

Again, she is close to both of her parents and never has spoken an unkind word about either one. So which is more likely to be true: what a drug addict may have written while under the influence of drugs or what an adult woman, clean of drugs, happy, working in her chosen career, says today about her father and mother?

This "dirty old man" nonsense is having real-world consequences, like today with Craig Deleeuw Robertson in Provo, who was killed after the FBI special agents tried to serve him a warrant for threatening to assassinate president Biden when he visited Utah this ahead of a visit to a Veterans Affairs hospital in Salt Lake City Thursday to talk about the PACT Act.

Robertson posted online Monday that he had heard Biden was coming to Utah and he was planning to dig out a camouflage suit and begin 'cleaning the dust off the M24 sniper rifle,' a post that came after months of graphic online threats against several public figures, according to court documents. Robertson referred to himself as a 'MAGA Trumper,' a reference to former President Donald Trump's 'Make America Great Again' slogan, and also posted threats against top law enforcement officials overseeing court cases against Trump.

Robertson was charged under seal Tuesday with three felony counts, including making threats against the president.

Whatever the Biden's various enterprises were selling ...

Why do use persist in using the plural , Biden's, when you have no proof that Joe Biden was a financial beneficiary of Hunter's business?

Drip drip drip... you got the clap too?

commonone: Again, she is close to both of her parents and never has spoken an unkind word about either one. So which is more likely to be true: what a drug addict may have written while under the influence of drugs or what an adult woman, clean of drugs, happy, working in her chosen career, says today about her father and mother?

Drug addicts, alcoholics and others under the influence will inadvertently say things, in other words, the truth they would not admit to while sober.

Now sober and perhaps with counseling sessions she has reconcile with her parents.
That is common when one is in recovery mode.

That appears the purpose of the Biden Family web of shell companies to obscure the true sources and end points of funds. We are getting some evidence of the first few links in the distribution chain.

Actually, you shouldn't even be aware of this, that is why it isn't a true investigation, and just a distraction away from Trump criminal charges. Seriously. The most tedious, boring part of the tracing funds is beginning, but I'm sure they'll find a way to tantalize you. The problem is there's nothing there, so in the end they pull an even bigger distraction to lead you into another direction and this one is forgotten.

But the end points are yet to be determined and may or may not include the big guy himself. Sooner or later the deposit records to the actual accounts of Biden family members will come out and the source of each deposit identified. My speculation is that many of the shell companies will be the payor and then the recipient can explain under oath how those funds were earned. Fun times.

I admit there's more cooperation now, but you can have this go on forever, with no conclusion, and in the end just more innuendo that there was a country that is friends with Biden that hid the final transactions, etc. I prefer people who are dumb enough to deposit their ill gotten gains in US banks directly. And while you're at it, just give me your second set of books - very handy to show the judge. Simple, direct.

Actually, you shouldn't even be aware of this, that is why it isn't a true investigation,

Interesting. So paying the family of a high ranking government official for access to said official and being effectively an agent of powers hostile to the US government isn't something the American people need to know about?

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