Halls of Shrewd'm / US Policy❤
No. of Recommendations: 6
Being forced by his whacko 'Freedom Caucus' to impeach Biden. A stupendously stupid move without good cause. All because Trump wants pay back.
So what is Biden getting impeached for? It's not clear, and it's possible that Biden gets impeached without evidence of wrongdoing.
When he made his announcement today to move forward with the impeachment process, House Speaker Kevin McCarthy (R-Calif.) cited allegations. Republicans allege that Biden benefited somehow from his son Hunter Biden's business deals. But there is no evidence that House Republicans have been able to dig up ' despite a year of investigating Hunter Biden on top of a five-year investigation by the Justice Department. WAPO
Well, we know the right is happy to make up lies to serve their purposes.
Trump really should have been convicted. But the cowardly GOP let him slide.
No. of Recommendations: 3
No. of Recommendations: 2
Being forced by his whacko 'Freedom Caucus' to impeach Biden. A stupendously stupid move without good cause. All because Trump wants pay back.
Technically, he hasn't yet been forced by the caucus to actually impeach Biden yet. Just to start an inquiry. Actually, just to
support starting an inquiry. It's not entirely certain that the GOP has the votes to formally begin an impeachment inquiry, as they did with Trump:
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-50246324
No. of Recommendations: 1
Replying to my own post, I got that wrong. Apparently McCarthy has decided to forgo a House vote on formalizing an impeachment inquiry - they're just going to re-identify the existing committee investigations as impeachment investigations:
https://themessenger.com/politics/moderate-house-r...With that process, they don't need a house-wide vote.
No. of Recommendations: 4
Saw some talking heads on the news yesterday discussing this. They believe it will help Biden just as the Trump troubles helped him with fundraising.
They did ask some very pointed questions of the GOP house members pushing this with less than satisfying answers. The GOP has already been investigating for six months and have received all the documents and information they have requested so it is not clear what else they will get from this.
No. of Recommendations: 3
The GOP has already been investigating for six months and have received all the documents and information they have requested so it is not clear what else they will get from this.
They'll get a permission structure for people who dislike Trump but want to vote Republican (whether those voters are Republican or right-leaning independents) to vote for Trump for President. Those folks have reservations about Trump, because they think he's a bad guy. If you can convince them that Biden's also a bad guy, then they can vote for the bad guy that at least matches up with their partisan preference. They are able to avoid the dissonance that comes with voting for a bad guy over a good guy just because you want an "R" in the White House.
No. of Recommendations: 4
it is not clear what else they will get from thisIf the reporting in the NYT is accurate, Trump's toady, MTG, who appears to be the driving force behind this said "'I did brief him on the strategy that I want to see laid out with impeachment" to be 'long and excruciatingly painful for Joe Biden' to make a 'long list of names' 'to go after every single one of them and use the Department of Justice to prosecute them.'
Apparently she doesn't care about the veracity of the allegations. Truth be damned, she simply wants to 'flood the zone with sh!t' to retake the Oval Office and majorities in the houses.
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/09/13/us/politics/tru...
No. of Recommendations: 0
While I view the dems as historically very bad at messaging and marketing compared to the GOP, they have a real opportunity here.
The trump team stonewalled and obfuscated at every turn, while the Biden team is providing everything requested. It would seem every hearing on the subject gives them an opportunity to reinforce this message.
Alan
No. of Recommendations: 2
"Apparently she doesn't care about the veracity of the allegations. Truth be damned, she simply wants to 'flood the zone with sh!t' to retake the Oval Office and majorities in the houses."
This sounds just like the Democrat playbook.
No. of Recommendations: 1
"the Biden team is providing everything requested. "
How do you know this to be true?
No. of Recommendations: 3
I suggest you look into Russell's teapot.
Alan
No. of Recommendations: 1
"I suggest you look into Russell's teapot."
That would put the burden of proof onto you as the one who has made this claim. I look forward to the basis for your claim .
No. of Recommendations: 5
While I view the dems as historically very bad at messaging and marketing compared to the GOP, they have a real opportunity here.
The trump team stonewalled and obfuscated at every turn, while the Biden team is providing everything requested. It would seem every hearing on the subject gives them an opportunity to reinforce this message.
I mean - maybe? I personally don't think that "responsiveness" is going to be an especially significant point of focus in these proceedings. I don't think the public noticed or cared all that much that the Trump Administration was recalcitrant in turning over documents**, and I expect they'll have the same indifference towards the Biden Administration's cooperation. Plus, the GOP will just keep trying to subpoena records from the prosecuting teams, which prosecutors will refuse to cooperate (for very good reason), and that will be what they point to when they claim that they can't get to all of the truth.
I suspect that if any/many Democrats are spending much of their camera time praising the Administration's responsiveness, rather than making other more substantive points, they'll be wasting an opportunity. Not seizing one.
Albaby
**The one exception might have been Trump's federal tax returns. But since when they were finally obtained by Congress (and subsequently released publicly) there just wasn't really anything significantly interesting about them, there's not much hay to be made of the grinding fight over access.
No. of Recommendations: 1
"the Biden team is providing everything requested. "
Boater: How do you know this to be true?
How do you know it isn't?
No. of Recommendations: 2
""the Biden team is providing everything requested. "
Boater: How do you know this to be true?
How do you know it isn't?"
Sigh, this is what you've got? I don't, which is why I asked for clarification. Having a slow day today?
No. of Recommendations: 10
Sigh, this is what you've got? I don't, which is why I asked for clarification.
You are using an argumentation fallacy; asking for proof of something that, as far as we know, does not exist.
"We know" Trump lied about returning all the classified documents because the evidence is blatant.
We'll never know if there is more Trump is hiding because he's an amoral, obstructing liar. The thing is, he's only being charged on what is known. He is not being charged on mere 'allegations' that are not substantiated by credible evidence.
So far all the QOP seems to have are unsubstantiated allegations.
No. of Recommendations: 1
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You are using an argumentation fallacy; asking for proof of something that, as far as we know, does not exist."
Actually no, you are wrong. I am merely asking a poster what is the basis for a sweepingly broad statement regarding Biden's cooperation thate he posted for us to read and evaluate. If he has some inside sources of information it would be nice to know in order to assess the validity of any future statements that he may post for us read. What is your guess as to what he will or will not produce?
No. of Recommendations: 1
The GOP has already been investigating for six months and have received all the documents and information they have requested so it is not clear what else they will get from this. = alan
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It is my understanding the house committee needed to go this extra step in order to compel the production of Biden's bank records. So far, all they have access to bank records of some of the shell companies. This move makes sense if you are trying to follow the money but are not able to see one of the likely end points.
No. of Recommendations: 8
"Charles Jay Sykes is an American political commentator who is currently editor-in-chief of the website The Bulwark. From 1993 to 2016, Sykes hosted a conservative talk show on WTMJ in Milwaukee, Wisconsin. He was also the editor of Right Wisconsin which was co-owned with WTMJ's then-parent company E. W. Scripps"Sykes take:
"'I think we're going to see this clown car at center stage. Look, if they have the goods, all well and good. But they clearly don't'. This was craven. This was cynical. It is pandering. But you understand why they are doing it. I mean, we're now finding out that Donald Trump talked with, met quietly with House leaders and told them he wanted them to do this because, to speak pure Steve Bannon, the goal here is to flood the zone with shit, to devalue impeachment by making sure that everybody is impeached.'
https://www.mediaite.com/politics/the-goal-here-is...
No. of Recommendations: 3
It would seem every hearing on the subject gives them an opportunity to reinforce this message.
Most of the erstwhile GOP is lost to the MAGA fictional world. They won't even hear it or notice it.
