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Author: commonone 🐝🐝 BRONZE
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Subject: Pimping the Presidential Seal
Date: 11/15/25 2:39 PM
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A website that pays licensing fees to former president Obama is selling merchandise bearing the official presidential seal — including a $150 record player and $20 beer pong set with “Presidential themed balls.”

Oh wait, my bad: that's pedophile Donald Trump, not Barack Obama.

GodBlessTheUSABible.com, which is affiliated with musician Lee Greenwood, sells a Donald Trump Record Player featuring the unaltered presidential seal on its cover and Patriotic Pong, a beer pong set displaying the seal’s image but with text reading “Donald J. Trump President of the United States” instead of the official seal’s text.

Licensing fees are paid to CIC Ventures LLC for the use of Trump's name, likeness and image, according to its FAQ. Trump is the sole owner of CIC Ventures LLC through the Donald J. Trump Revocable Trust, per his latest financial disclosure.

Ain't that a kick in the head.

Imagine if Obama or Biden were pimping the presidential seal on a beer pong set. There wouldn't be enough hours in the day for Faux News to be outraged and for republicans to call for their eternal damnation.


https://www.forbes.com/sites/zacheverson/2025/11/1...
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Author: marco100   😊 😞
Number: of 75974 
Subject: Re: Pimping the Presidential Seal
Date: 11/15/25 2:54 PM
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communistone,

Who hurt you?
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Author: flightdoc 101   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Pimping the Presidential Seal
Date: 11/16/25 9:10 AM
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Emoluments clause suspended until further notice...
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Author: marco100   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Pimping the Presidential Seal
Date: 11/16/25 9:30 AM
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The emoluments clause has not been suspended.

This is more delusional ProGlib-think.

You never even heard of the Emoluments Clause until you got the talking points.

Besides, when Biden pardoned his family members for accepting emoluments from foreign governments (among other violations they committed), that wasn't a suspension of the emoluments clause; it was an exercise of the Presidential pardon power (assuming he didn't autopen even those pardons).
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Author: Steve203 🐝  😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Pimping the Presidential Seal
Date: 11/16/25 10:06 AM
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Besides, when Biden pardoned his family members for accepting emoluments from foreign governments (among other violations they committed), that wasn't a suspension of the emoluments clause;

During the first go-around, Trump declared the emoluments clause "a hoax" or "fake", I forget which, so there was no emoluments clause for the Biden "crime family" to violate.

Ah, the net is a wonderful thing.

Trump said the emoluments clause is 'phony.'

https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-said-emolume...

How could the Bidens commit a crime by violating a clause Lord Trump had previously declared "phony"?

Steve
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Author: Banksy 🐝🐝 HONORARY
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Subject: Re: Pimping the Presidential Seal
Date: 11/16/25 10:08 AM
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Emoluments clause suspended until further notice...

Suspended? LOL
I think Trump killed it and buried it...

"China: Paid over $5.5 million to Trump hotels and properties, including Trump Tower, Trump Hotel DC, and Trump Hotel Las Vegas."

"Qatar: Gifted Trump a $400 Million Jet and Purchased a unit in Trump World Tower for $6.5 million and paid increasing monthly charges to Trump."
Then, The Trump family struck a deal to build a luxury golf resort in Qatar.
The project, will feature Trump-branded beachside villas and an 18-hole golf course! America First!

"Full List of Countries That Made Payments to Donald Trump"

https://www.newsweek.com/full-list-countries-made-...

"Trump companies got millions from foreign governments"

https://abcnews.go.com/US/trumps-businesses-receiv...

https://www.bbc.com/news/business-67885908
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Author: marco100   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Pimping the Presidential Seal
Date: 11/16/25 10:37 AM
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It is not a violation of the emoluments clause for a President to profit from a business which receives profits from foreign governments or entities.

This is just ProGlib nonsense talking points which you got from heather cox richardson or some one like that.
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Author: wzambon 🐝 HONORARY
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Subject: Re: Pimping the Presidential Seal
Date: 11/16/25 11:06 AM
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It is not a violation of the emoluments clause for a President to profit from a business which receives profits from foreign governments or entities.


So what you are saying….. is that the very definition of the emoluments clause- does not fall under the emoluments clause.
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Author: Lambo 🐝  😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Pimping the Presidential Seal
Date: 11/16/25 12:24 PM
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It is not a violation of the emoluments clause for a President to profit from a business which receives profits from foreign governments or entities.


So what you are saying….. is that the very definition of the emoluments clause- does not fall under the emoluments clause.


That's exactly what he's saying and it seems to be the Supremes, by vacating lower court decisions, are not only avoiding making determinations, they are no leaving lower court determinations in place. Even in the dicta they don't seem to give direction as to standing, etc., so we have a problem. So a very bad person who has no scruples, is raking in the dough where he can, and openly accepting payments, deals, and who knows what else.
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Author: marco100   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Pimping the Presidential Seal
Date: 11/16/25 1:51 PM
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No, what I am saying is that the Emoluments Clause does not prohibit a President from earning profits from running a private business even if some of the profits are received from foreign entities, nationals, or governments.
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Author: marco100   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Pimping the Presidential Seal
Date: 11/16/25 2:10 PM
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Not sure what you are on about.

It's not a constitutional requirement that a President divest himself or herself of private business interests which are profitable, nor is it a requirement that a President cannot start new businesses after being elected. This includes no constitutional prohibition to the President's engaging in private business enterprises which derive profits from foreign actors, citizens, governments, or what have you. It's simply not there.

Prohibited "emoluments" may include rewards/benefits/favors/gifts/what have you received by the President from foreign governments [etc.] for services performed on behalf of the foreign government in his capacity as President.

I say "may" because as was noted, there is a dearth of interpretation of the clause by the Supreme Court.

However, there is no possible interpretation of the Emoluments Clause that prohibits business activity by the President where for example profits are received as compensation in exchange for value provided.

For example, Trump is not prohibited from running a golf course development business in his private capacity, making contracts to build golf courses in foreign countries and even for foreign governments, and being compensated for that.

If the Saudi Government hires Trump's golf course company to build a golf course in Riyadh and pays him to do that it's perfectly legitimate and not a violation of the emoluments clause.

You may be thinking of some other example but if so what is it specifically and why do you think it violates the Emoluments Clause?
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Author: Lambo 🐝  😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Pimping the Presidential Seal
Date: 11/16/25 2:46 PM
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Not sure what you are on about.


It's fairly clear, why don't you AI about the cases brought against Trump.
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Author: marco100   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Pimping the Presidential Seal
Date: 11/16/25 3:05 PM
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Lambo,

Why don't you indicate how you think Trump ever violated the Emoluments Clause.

He hasn't.

The Supreme Court dismissed all the bogus cases brought up against him in his first term on standing/mootness grounds.

But guess what?

He's back in office again.

Is CREW or anyone else trying to sue him for violating the Emoluments Clause again?

Why not?

Because it's a waste of time and money and will establish a clear precedent that a President is not prohibited from engaging in legitimate for-profit private business activities while President. Because the Constitution doesn't say that at all.

If you want to claim that it's not real business and you think it's bribes, of course a bribe could possibly be considered an "Emolument" (i.e. a gift), but that would have to be proved in a court of law first before the Emoluments Clause would even come into consideration.

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Author: Lapsody   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Pimping the Presidential Seal
Date: 11/16/25 3:39 PM
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Why don't you indicate how you think Trump ever violated the Emoluments Clause.


So using AI to look up the results of the suits and confirm the lower court rulings that were vacated is beyond your ability? All you want do do is ask questions because you don't know how to google oar ask AI? And you want to argue on the internet this way?
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Author: marco100   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Pimping the Presidential Seal
Date: 11/16/25 3:49 PM
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Lapsody,

What are you talking about?

You're so irrational.

How does looking anything up on "A.I." (not sure why you think I did or didn't, but it's not relevant) tell me how YOU think Trump violated the Emoluments Clause (if you actually think that?)

You can't even think for yourself at all, can you.


Now are you going to tell me to look up on "A.I." why Lapsody thinks Trump violated the Emoluments Clause?

You want me to do that bucky boy? You think that will come back with an answer for me?
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