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Author: EchotaSheeple   😊 😞
Number: of 48467 
Subject: Paging Dope Re Warren
Date: 08/04/2024 6:30 PM
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See - yet another example how Liberal professionals and Campus Bred Pukes haven't seen the ball since the kickoff.



https://www.masslive.com/politics/2024/07/mass-sen...

Lizzy wants to spend $500 BILLION dollars in the name of "building or rehabbing" homes that are affordable.

If you divide those two numbers, that is about $167,000 per home @3 million new units. So I ask you....


*Are there lots of houses for sale for $166,000 in the Seattle area?

*I've been trying to buy rehab homes in metro Atlanta - and the one I was closest on money-wise I offered $200k for last year, it does for $225k. It needed about $100k in work. So that was a total project cost of $325k - if *nothing* went wrong with the rehab...and oh, that doesn't include 10 months holding period.

*Dope - do you feel the government can rehab homes quicker and cheaper than a private company, or a small Joe like me investing hard earned savings with hopes of a quick profit?

*The General Contractors, HVAC dudes, plumbers....we know they are a transparent and honest bunch. Think the government can make them work on schedule and in budget and would their estimates be cut rate when an oh so qualified government employee is overseeing it?

Of course, it lowers rent by 10%.....for renters because eventually 3,000,0000 government built homes for $167k per unit will be constructed which is good. Because we thankfully don't have that ugly nasty "Beaver Cleaver" life where people eventually marry, maker plans to live within means, play vital roles in bringing up a family...hence yes, many need rent assistance.

BUT if I'm a renter, what do I do while the government builds 3,000,000 homes - for $167k a unit? How long can I wait? And when it finally happens, and I save $180 a month on my $1800.00 rent.....is $180 per month to send my girlfriend's son to Yale?

You know more than me, hence I ask......where's them FAMILY units I can buy turnkey, OR buy and own for $167k INCLUDING rehab?

On a side note if Harris wins and gets Senate approval .....this could be fun for some.

PS: I wonder if the Estate Taxes will be paid by the truly wealthy? Or will Club 401K be willing to have their 401K's tithed?






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Author: Dope1   😊 😞
Number: of 48467 
Subject: Re: Paging Dope Re Warren
Date: 08/05/2024 12:35 PM
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I'm flattered you would ask! I'm no real estate person but generally $167k won't buy you a closet anywhere near Seattle. To give you an idea of what construction costs are, we spec'd out an outbuilding (garage with an office over it) at our property in Eastern Washington...and it came out to be over $300,000.

Here's Zillow for Seattle:
https://www.zillow.com/homes/Seattle,-WA_rb/

...and this is what $150k buys you there:
https://www.zillow.com/homes/for_sale/?searchQuery...

That's 2 houseboats. If you add manufactured homes to the mix:
https://www.zillow.com/homes/for_sale/?searchQuery...

To get into the Seattle city limits for houses, you're looking at $700k:
https://www.zillow.com/homes/for_sale/?searchQuery...

...you're still looking at nothing in the city limits, you have to go out a ways for that. Houses in the $150k range in Tacoma (40 miles south) look like this:
https://www.zillow.com/homes/for_sale/?searchQuery...

Still very few.

There are all sorts of "Affordable housing initiatives" in the Pacific Northwest. They almost all fail for a variety of reasons, but the main one is that nobody looks at the underlying regulations for constructing new housing stock. So they hand out all these incentives to builders who will buy a lot at an estate sale, tear down the single family house and put up a 4-plex of condos that sell for $1M+ each. They might offer one of them at some reduced number, but certainly not all.

There are many reasons for the inflated prices, but one of the most simple is that it's very difficult to build out where the actual land is due to environmental regulations. They're so stringent that they reduce the amount of land supply and drive up pricing in the city of Seattle, to the tune of $200k plus per home:

https://www.seattletimes.com/business/uw-study-rul....
UW study: Rules add $200,000 to Seattle house price

This was in 2008. Imagine what it is now!

I think you could a way better job of fixing houses than the government ever could. Just don't try it up here :).


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Author: bighairymike   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Paging Dope Re Warren
Date: 08/05/2024 3:14 PM
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I think you could a way better job of fixing houses than the government ever could. Just don't try it up here :). - dope

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An investor who has his own money at risk will evaluate the opportunity carefully. If the Federal government is handing out free money, that will attract entrepreneurs to start up companies specifically to access the grant money available.

The result is, for example, brand new insulated windows being installed into shacks that have holes in the roof, missing siding, or no insulation in the walls. I am sorry for the poor person living there but the government providing new windows won't make much difference to his life.




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