Halls of Shrewd'm / US Policy
No. of Recommendations: 1
Why are you too arrogant - to make Trump YOUR puppet?
He says "negotiate" on Greenland and you people say "TACO".
All you had to do was stroke him. Tell him what a good job he did wiping his ass and washing his hands.
All you had to do was give him the same dumbass award you gave to Arafat.
And do shit like that.
And wait it out for 4 years.
And tweak your Liberal side just a smidge and be waiting for a huge mandate, not a squeaker win in 2028.
bit you're too stubborn.
Just like your European SlaveTrading Imperialistic NationRaping friends. May the day come where they get what they deserve - preferably from within.
No. of Recommendations: 1
And all this stress over Greenland was over the Golden Dome?
How stupid are the Danes? And the Canadians, for that matter?
No. of Recommendations: 1
And all this stress over Greenland was over the Golden Dome?
How stupid are the Danes? And the Canadians, for that matter?
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Smart they are.
They have had a free ride.
They dont know being vulnerable.
And it's been fashionable to say "bully" ugly" ---well before Trump came into politics.
We're not going to gut them. it's not feasible.
But from within, especially Europe - I hope it happens. I regret Vladdy isn't strong enough to do it.
Side benefit - the rapes would stop because the attitude of the Russian Chicks populating Europe would be a turn off even to the migrants.
No. of Recommendations: 2
Looks like we have a deal for Greenland in some form.
Russia, China, and this board hardest hit.
No. of Recommendations: 23
Russia, China, and this board hardest hit.
What are you talking about? It's insanely unlikely that there's anything in the "agreement" that we wouldn't have been given on the first ask. Particularly since this concept of an agreement isn't with Denmark or the EU, but with NATO - who has no real authority to grant any rights in Greenland that are outside the remit of the security alliance, which would have given us anything we asked for.
Russia and China have to be pleased as punch with how this went down. Russia had a major international conference with all the world's important heads of state not have Ukraine be the main topic. Both of them got to see Trump put the NATO alliance under massive stress, for no reason. On the economic front, both benefit by further weakening of EU-US economic relations and an interruption in the EU-US trade deal. And China in particular has to be delighted about how all of this is pushing countries to seek further integration with the Chinese economy, as doing business with the U.S. is shown time and again to now be unpredictable and contingent on whatever other policy goals the President is pursuing.
A complete self-own, causing damage to our the alliances we need to contain China and Russia while not accomplishing anything that couldn't have been obtained with a phone call a year ago.
No. of Recommendations: 0
What are you talking about? It's insanely unlikely that there's anything in the "agreement" that we wouldn't have been given on the first ask
You don’t know that. You have zero way of knowing that.
All Trump mentioned in his speech today…was the Golden Dome. A perfectly reasonable request.
The next question one could ask is why Canada wasn’t pushing just as hard for the GD.
No. of Recommendations: 7
You don’t know that. You have zero way of knowing that.
That's why I merely said it was insanely unlikely, not that I had knowledge of the terms of the agreement.
It's with the head of NATO. Not with anyone who has actual jurisdiction over Greenland, not with any European governmental entity, not with Greenland itself. With NATO. NATO doesn't have the power to give Trump any rights in Greenland that NATO - the organization that implements the military alliance and not a country or government - already possesses.
And there's virtually no chance that NATO wouldn't give one of its member militaries, especially the U.S., accommodations on something NATO has control over.
Honestly, since this came from NATO and not from anyone that has any real authority over Greenland, I'm deeply curious whether there's anything material at all in this "outline of a concept of a deal," other than it being a way for Trump to climb down and pretend he got something of a win.
No. of Recommendations: 1
That's why I merely said it was insanely unlikely, not that I had knowledge of the terms of the agreement.
Unfortunately, I do not recall the name of the person I saw on the news last night. The gist of the conversation was that, when Trump first started blathering about Greenland, a year ago, Greenland and Danish authorities were open to allowing more US bases, and working with US companies on minerals extraction. It was entirely Trump that insisted on taking the island over entirely, which was a no-go.
Steve
No. of Recommendations: 6
albaby1: I'm deeply curious whether there's anything material at all in this "outline of a concept of a deal," other than it being a way for Trump to climb down and pretend he got something of a win.
Are you (deeply curious)?
I mean, how many times does Lucy have to snatch away that football?
The Pedophile Protector has had the 'concept' of a healthcare plan for 10 years, the 'concept' of an infrastructure bill for four years, the 'concept' of an end to the Russian invasion of Ukraine for four years.
The f*ckin list is endless.
C'mon, stop, already.
No. of Recommendations: 0
What you say below is true, but I am grateful for albaby1's ability to make his point without vitriol, knowing that I am not always capable of that.
Are you (deeply curious)?
I mean, how many times does Lucy have to snatch away that football?
The Pedophile Protector has had the 'concept' of a healthcare plan for 10 years, the 'concept' of an infrastructure bill for four years, the 'concept' of an end to the Russian invasion of Ukraine for four years.
The f*ckin list is endless.
C'mon, stop, already.
No. of Recommendations: 3
albaby1: I'm deeply curious whether there's anything material at all in this "outline of a concept of a deal," other than it being a way for Trump to climb down and pretend he got something of a win.
Are you (deeply curious)?
I am indeed. I don't expect there to be anything material in it, which is why I referred to it as an "outline of a concept of a deal" - some clear humorous mockery there, with a hat tip to Bananas.
However, I am curious about whether there was anything that Rutte was able to scrounge together that is his to give that is material at all. I mean, he could have promised Trump all the mineral rights in Greenland, if he wanted to - NATO has no ownership or jurisdiction or control over Greenland's mineral rights, so that's nothing, but Trump might have been either unaware or unconcerned about that. But is there something that Rutte actually had within his power that he could give to Trump? I suspect not, but I would be interested to know....
No. of Recommendations: 0
Looks like we have a deal for Greenland in some form.
Russia, China, and this board hardest hit.
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I hope so.
From this President I dont believe big things until I see them signed and sealed.
