Halls of Shrewd'm / Shrewdsmith
No. of Recommendations: 5
Right now it says:
This page will list the boards that you have read the most, sorted in order of the most loved boards. You need to complete more reading for before your first board will appear here. Shrewd on!
It seems the idea is that some algorithm realizes which boards you like most after some time.
I have been to the Berkshire board a dozen times for sure, but it does not show up yet. So I have to click on Stock A-Z, letter B, find Berkshire and click on it many times until it shows up. That's a lot of clicks.
Frankly, I think algorithms take away control from the user, and in fact too much complicated behind the scenes tracking was probably one of the reasons people rejected the new fool boards. (Seemingly random numbers of unread/tracked/new posts, a feed of recommended posts below every post etc.)
I also think that this method makes it more difficult for boards with lower post count to become more popular. For example I used to visit the Micron board every 3 months only after an earnings release, to see what a certain poster had to say about it. That board would probably never make it into my favourites.
The old system with easily adding/removing a favourite board with the heart symbol worked great.
Also, the favourite board page showing the unread post count, and letting you mark each board, and all boards as read with one click would be super useful. That way you can go to a board, focus on reading only what you regard as interesting, and then mark it as read.
No. of Recommendations: 1
It seems the idea is that some algorithm realizes which boards you like most after some time.Thanks Aguila. Your post was most helpful because what was really at fault was the communications. The user is left in the dark as to how Favourites is calculates.
Your favourites come up *very* quickly. If you read 20 posts, it will already be there, but if you like a few post, then it is there much faster. There has to be a reasonable hurdle or everything will be in your favourites.
The explanation previously only appears when you already have a favourite, but
now it explains how it works from the start, as follows:
Favourites
This page will list the boards that you have read the most,
sorted in order of the most loved boards. You need to
complete more reading for before your first board will
appear here. Any reading that you did prior to signing
up will not contribute to this. Shrewd on!
Your Love Factor is calculated with one point for every
50 post views by you, and one point for every 5
recommendations by you. The boards listed above all
reached a Love Factor of 1.
Shrewded.
You'll enjoy the way it works, hang in there. *Some* users don't have the initiative to select a board as a favourite with TMF and would continually search through Companies / B / Berkshire every time they open their browser. That is taken care of automatically in Shrewdom.
- Manlobbi
No. of Recommendations: 2
Your favourites come up *very* quickly. If you read 20 posts, it will already be there,
I clicked on 20 post just right now and it did not show up. Clicked on a few more and it now showed up. So I think the limit is 50 clicks.
There is now a big red heart (maybe a tad too big?) next to the board title.
I still think giving the user more control (in addition to the automation) would be a good idea.
Maybe a light grey (outline of a) heart next to the board title to immediately add it to Favourites with a 'love factor' of 1? And an option to remove a favourite board from the Favourites page if I want to take a break from seeing it?
Just my ideas - thank you for all you are doing.
No. of Recommendations: 1
I clicked on 20 post just right now and it did not show up. Clicked on a few more and it now showed up. So I think the limit is 50 clicks.
Correct.
Maybe a light grey (outline of a) heart next to the board title to immediately add it to Favourites with a 'love factor' of 1?
I like your idea but too much clutter, and heading toward gadget-geeky aesthetic which we don't want.
Purity, logic, beauty - so most get what they want without even realizing anythin t is happening behind the scenes.
Similar TMF had all these medal icons near the author that no-one cared about other than one or two. Now we have just one - and the one that really matters, *long term quality* of the author's posting, no other clutter.
- Manlobbi
No. of Recommendations: 2
Thanks (again) for all your work Manlobbi!
You'll enjoy the way it works, hang in there. *Some* users don't have the initiative to select a board as a favourite with TMF and would continually search through Companies / B / Berkshire every time they open their browser. That is taken care of automatically in Shrewdom.
I like your idea but too much clutter, and heading toward gadget-geeky aesthetic which we don't want.
Purity, logic, beauty - so most get what they want without even realizing anythin t is happening behind the scenes.
I don't know who 'we' are, but I second Aguila's (and others') suggestion about being able to be in control, and well, allow Favorites to be your favorites.
Favorites serves as as hub that users use for various reasons. Algorithmic as initial helper is fine, but imho shouldn't be mutually exclusive to giving users the freedom to choose what works best for them. A favorite board can be something I like and want to keep track on or read at my own pace.
From my experience in trying to be of help over at that other place: 'Where's my favorites', 'How do add my favorites' and so on was/is a top priority asked over and over again. Especially from those used to the old boards. Other threads include confusion and complaints about 'favorite boards' being in random order or moving around in mysterious ways. Here's one about the latter:
discussion.fool[dot]com/t/flags-on-the-left-of-categories/79224
Algorithmic ranking of boards based on views and recommendations runs the risk of acting as a funnel for consumption of 'more of the same', which I suppose is the opposite of what we want. Take a hypothetical Twitter-like platform for example, that pushes categories to the top based on how much you read and click on 'like'. Would 'Favorites' be an appropriate term for such a system, and if not, what's the difference?
- Raylight
