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Author: Lapsody 🐝  😊 😞
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Subject: Re: 'NEVER SURRENDER'
Date: 08/26/2023 3:22 PM
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1pg: But that is only if he is convicted of "insurrection" (or equivalent). Not sure election tampering qualifies, which is what he most likely will be convicted in GA (conspiracy/RICO).

Me: Safe route. But, I stipulated conviction, and quote from a doubter -

<snip>The original understanding of the definition of 'insurrection or rebellion' was more sweeping than I had assumed, and crucially includes some broad classes of behavior that we would see as aiding, abetting, or even counseling miscreants, far from any front lines. It is by no means limited to, say, taking part in violent clashes.<Snip>

This would include assenting/agreeing to a course of action and also setting wheels in motion. It's even broader than what is in the above paragraph I think. No one has to declare "this is an insurrection and rebellion", and it can start out NOT being an insurrection and/or rebellion and cross over the line into becoming those things. And -

<snip>Since January 2021, litigation seeking to disqualify candidates based on their conduct then has made clear that the law is not somehow a dead letter. New Mexico removed a county commissioner from office, one member of Congress was found covered by an appeals court but lost his seat in a primary resulting in the mooting of the case; another member of Congress won a ruling that she had not been factually shown to have engaged in covered conduct, which is distinct from any notion that the law wouldn't have applied if she had.<snip>

So it's up to the Supreme Court to decide. But in my minds eye, an attempt to illegally and with chaos scheme to stop the peaceful transfer of power and seize that power for yourself qualifies as an insurrection and/or rebellion.
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