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- Manlobbi
Halls of Shrewd'm / US Policy
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Officially official. People from countries on the list of 19 Trump issued last summer, will have their admissibility reexamined.
Will be interesting how far they go. Whether the demands are reasonable? Or will each person be required to prove they are not the boogyman?....because you can't prove a negative, so they would all be deported.
Trump admin reexamining green cards linked to 19 countries after DC shooting https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/562537...Steve
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I think you're missing the point of the re-examinations, Steve. (Same as with SNAP.)
It's statistical. It's stochastic. Re-examination of thousands or millions of files of immigration paperwork from the 19 targeted countries will undoubtedly show a very high percentage of fraudulent applications, applications which are ineligible on their face but were mishandled by the Biden administration or prior admins, and other discrepancies which at a minimum, require further investigation.
You know, like we can pretty confidently make the assumption, at this point, that Somalis in Minnesota commit a disproportionate amount of government benefits fraud.
Or that young black men in Chicago shoot a disproportional amount of each other, and other people as well.
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It's statistical. It's stochastic. Or, it's an excuse to turn the xenophobia up to 11, as I predicted.
Trump says he will ‘permanently pause’ migration from ‘third world countries’ after national guard shooting
In a social media post beginning with “a very happy Thanksgiving,” sent after 11pm on Thursday, the US president said his administration would “end all federal benefits and subsidies to noncitizens” and remove “anyone who is not a net asset to the United States”.
The president’s late-night post appeared to mark an escalation in the anti-migrant policies of his second term, which has been dominated by a campaign of mass deportations.
The extended screed posted to the president’s Truth Social account did not identify the countries he intended to target or explain what he meant by “third-world”, but instead used blistering anti-immigrant rhetoric to blame issues like high crime and America’s rising deficit on the presence of migrants and refugees, without evidence.https://currently.att.yahoo.com/news/articles/trum...This appears to be the X post. It appears he is targeting nearly all 53M foreign born people in the country, and calls for revoking the naturalization of immigrants who have become citizens.
https://x.com/PolitlcsUS/status/199428157006087799...Do you have your papers in order, or depending on white skin to protect you?
Steve
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The extended screed posted to the president’s Truth Social account did not identify the countries he intended to target or explain what he meant by “third-world”, but instead used blistering anti-immigrant rhetoric to blame issues like high crime and America’s rising deficit on the presence of migrants and refugees, without evidence.
Trump's grip is starting to slip, so, of course, he goes to his best tried and true tactic for keeping the MAGA folks in line: RACISM and XENOPHOBIA.
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Trump's grip is starting to slip, so, of course, he goes to his best tried and true tactic for keeping the MAGA folks in line: RACISM and XENOPHOBIA.
And of course, the ever reliable "this is all Biden's fault anyway" lie.
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Trump's grip is starting to slip, so, of course, he goes to his best tried and true tactic for keeping the MAGA folks in line: RACISM and XENOPHOBIA.
This is, after all, what his base voted for. Anyone listening to his rhetoric over the last 10 years should not have expected anything else.
Steve...has his papers in order.
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Steve 203,
Well again when you process what Trump actually said or posted on social media through propagandistic media outlets, you're going to get the confirmation bias that you always seem to be looking for.
However, if you're correct to interpret whatever Trump said (or however it's being interpreted) as "targeting all 53 million foreign born people living in the United States," I completely agree with you.
The targeting should be much more focused, specifically on any would-be immigrants or non-citizens who hail from Arabic or Islamic-controlled areas.
They are clearly the most dangerous to allow into the country, at least not without an extremely invasive, detailed and lengthy vetting process.
The Jihadi MurderBot is simply the latest example of many covering decades.
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wild guess,
You don't sound American, you don't even sound like you currently live in America. You sound like a Poland troll bot/Eurotrash.
Your papers, please?
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go,
No, it's your fault, and the fault of all like-minded ProGlibs.
A brutal Jihadi attack just occurred in our nation's captial, and instead of living in reality and addressing the implications of that for our society, you prefer to delusionally blame Trump for all your life's problems.
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Well again when you process what Trump actually said or posted on social media through propagandistic media outlets, you're going to get the confirmation bias that you always seem to be looking for.
That is why I also posted the link to the actual post, so people can read, and judge for themselves.
The targeting should be much more focused, specifically on any would-be immigrants or non-citizens who hail from Arabic or Islamic-controlled areas.
His original list of 19, which was released last summer, also included Venezuela, Haiti, and Cuba. He held forth, during his other term, what he considered desirable immigrants, people like Norwegians, vs the people from (poo)-hole countries. I wonder if he would let people in from Argentina?
Steve
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What you didn't post was a link to a legible version of his entire X post, which (as usual) is different from what you said.
Post the ENTIRE X post, then we can talk again.
You guys really really don't like to actually look at unfiltered stuff. You just regurgitate propaganda that confirms your biases.
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Post the ENTIRE X post, then we can talk again.
Click on the link I posted. Then click on the black box of text on the page. That will take you to the full post, which is three pages long.
Steve
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Sorry Steve your link doesn't work for me but I found Trump's post elsewhere.
As usual, you left out or disregarded a lot of qualifiers in Trump's post.
Can we at least agree that all immigrants from Arabic or Islamic nations, particularly those who practice Islam, represent a disproportionate threat to America, and if allowed in at all, should be very carefully vetted--much moreso in the past?
I mean, how many airplanes do they have to hijack; skyscrapers they have to blow up; marathons they have to bomb; national guard they have to murder; universities they have to take over?
If you're unwilling to agree to targeting enforcement efforts at the obviously highest risk countries, then there is no choice but to target them all, including some of the mail order brides of our passport bro posters.
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As usual, you left out or disregarded a lot of qualifiers in Trump's post.
That is why I posted the link. Don't know why it doesn't work for you. Yes, plenty of qualifiers, but many are overbroad, like disrupting "domestic tranquility". What constitutes a disruption? Asking a question out loud, that TPTB don't want to hear?
Can we at least agree that all immigrants from Arabic or Islamic nations, particularly those who practice Islam, represent a disproportionate threat
No
Steve
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What constitutes a disruption, Steve?
I don't know, maybe driving thousands of miles cross country to shoot National Guard troops in our nation's capital?
Does that work for you?
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I don't know, maybe driving thousands of miles cross countryBlowing up a government building in Oklahoma City? Both those white guys had connections to the "Michigan Militia".
Or the "Hutaree' white, Christian, nutter militia, in southern Michigan, who were plotting the mass murder of policeman? FBI jumped the gun, before compiling enough evidence, so failed to get a conviction.
How about the "Wolverine Watchmen", another white, nutter militia in Michigan, who were plotting to kidnap and kill the Governor? Those boys are in prison, where they belong.
On August 23, 2022, Fox and Croft were found guilty of kidnapping conspiracy and conspiracy to possess weapons of mass destruction at their retrial.[158] Croft was also convicted of another explosives charge.[13]
On October 6, 2022, Franks was sentenced to four years in prison.[159]
On December 27, 2022, Fox was sentenced to serve sixteen years in federal prison followed by five years of supervision.[160]
On December 28, 2022, Croft was sentenced to serve more than nineteen years and seven months in federal prisonhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gretchen_Whitmer_kid...I live in Michigan. The place is crawling with nutter militias and so-called "sovereign sheriffs", who insist they make the laws, not the elected representatives in Lansing. Their activities are ideology based, like any other terrorist organization, vs a lone nut with a gun, like the white kid that shot four classmates in Oxford High School, a few years ago.
Steve
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Steve,
You need to take your ADHD meds.
We were talking about immigration, remember?
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Deflection toward “right wing” violence is another tactic they use.
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We were talking about immigration, remember?
Seemed to me the thread had drifted to what constitutes a disruption of "domestic tranquility"? If the standard is "disruption" there is plenty of that here, and you can't point a finger at one bunch as the source of that disruption. There are lots of native born USian white, Christian, people who are a "public charge" too, along with rapists, drug dealers, murderers, fraudsters. None of these crimes will vanish, by deporting every Muslim, or dark skinned person.
Steve
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Well Steve,
We won't cure worldwide starvation by giving Americans SNAP benefits either.
Might as well just throw up our hands and not try at all, right?
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Might as well just throw up our hands and not try at all, right?
Yeah! That's the ticket. Let all the Proles starve. That will motivate them to work more! Let them die of curable conditions too. Then all the money that has been wasted on food and medical care for Proles can be given to the "JCs"!!
/sarcasm
Has any country ridded itself of crime, or poverty, with a pogrom?
Steve
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Has any country ridded itself of crime, or poverty, with a pogrom?
No, but that hasn't stopped many authoritarian imbeciles from trying.
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No, but that hasn't stopped many authoritarian imbeciles from trying.
Maybe it's nothing but a show, to keep the mob diverted, while TPTB advance their real agenda? After all, the group targeted, and the mob pandered to, are nothing but expandable meat, right? So use them. And, if they ever get wise that they are being conned, shift to a new pogrom.
Steve
