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- Manlobbi
Outskirts of Shrewd'm / Science, Technology, Engineering and Mathematics
No. of Recommendations: 9
Happy 250th America & Happy July 4th to my fellow Americans and to those in foreign lands. Cheers!
Always appreciate Warren’s ongoing message, perspective and optimism wrt America:
“Indeed, who has ever benefited during the past 238 years by betting against America? If you compare our country’s present condition to that existing in 1776, you have to rub your eyes in wonder. In my lifetime alone, real per-capita U.S. output has sextupled. My parents could not have dreamed in 1930 of the world their son would see. Though the preachers of pessimism prattle endlessly about America’s problems, I’ve never seen one who wishes to emigrate (though I can think of a few for whom I would happily buy a one-way ticket). The dynamism embedded in our market economy will continue to work its magic. Gains won’t come in a smooth or uninterrupted manner; they never have. And we will regularly grumble about our government. But, most assuredly, America’s best days lie ahead.” (2014 letter)
No. of Recommendations: 38
But, most assuredly, America’s best days lie ahead.
USA voters have some serious work to do to reclaim their government if this is to happen.
As I've noted before, I've now lived more than one-third of the history of the USA as a country. I've never been more concerned about how it is being governed now.
What a contrast with our founders intentions!! And characters.
No. of Recommendations: 7
USA voters have some serious work to do to reclaim their government if this is to happen.
We just did! Sorry for your loss bro. You might consider a move to California or New York City.
No. of Recommendations: 15
We just did! Sorry for your loss bro.
And if we win next time, will you accept the loss? It appears that your president won't, and there lies the problem.
"We can only lose the midterms if we allow ourselves to lose the midterms if we are foolish, stupid, and unwise. But if we terminate the filibuster as we should do and immediately vote for the SAVE America Act, then we will not lose an election for a hundred years."
The people are supposed to choose their elected officials, not the other way around. Precedent, as in 1/6, and his current words, say he won't accept his loss.
No. of Recommendations: 3
The people are supposed to choose their elected officials, not the other way around
As before a post about what Charlie said about shorting this provokes me to violate my intention to not post anymore.
In Germany the right-wing party Afd is on the rise and will probably become the governing party in this years elections in the states of Sachsen-Anhalt and Mecklenburg-Vorpommern. What happened? The governing middle-left coalition in Sachsen-Anhalt passed a law which limits the powers of the next governments. They call it "Notfallregeln" (Emergency Rules).
This additional to since years ongoing tries to stop the Afd´s rise by trying to forbid the party itself, to exclude it from elections. I wonder what they´d say if the situation would be the other way around, the Afd governing Germany (at the current trend not an unlikely scenario) and trying to forbid the Green´s/Linke/SPD, the left parties.
Reminds me on an old saying: "If the voter doesn´t vote the way he has to, choose new voters" or similar.
I would never have thought that one day the US could go in a similar direction, THE country of the rights of the individual and of free speech***.
***Freedom of speech always by law was much more limited in Germany than in the US, but in the last years under the leftish government far more so. E.g. as difficult as that might be to believe for an American citizen: There is now a law under which if a biological man claims to be a woman and you reply "Sorry, you are a man" he (she?) can successfully sue you for denying him (her?) his (her?) sexual "identity" 😂
P.S.: I am not sure whether a laughing smiley is appropriate, as this is a rather tragic than laughing matter 😒
No. of Recommendations: 5
The people are supposed to choose their elected officials, not the other way around. Precedent, as in 1/6, and his current words, say he won't accept his loss.
You answered the question, the citizens are supposed to choose their elected officials. I need my identification to do many trivial things, 70% or more of ALL Americans want a voter to have proof of citizenship. Another no brainer that the radical cheating lunatics are dead set against!!!
No. of Recommendations: 4
And if we win next time, will you accept the loss? It appears that your president won't, and there lies the problem.
Our president has already lost and left the office once before. Wouldn’t a democracy bend to the will of an overwhelming amount of citizens?
According to grok
Around 80-87% of Americans (or likely voters) support requiring proof of citizenship to register to vote, according to multiple recent polls. Support is very high across parties, though it varies somewhat by question wording, sample (adults vs. likely voters), and pollster.
Key Poll Findings
• Gallup (October 2024): 83% of U.S. adults favored “requiring people who are registering to vote for the first time to provide proof of citizenship.” (Only 15% opposed; strong bipartisan support, with 96% of Republicans, 84% of Independents, and 66% of Democrats in favor.)
• Excellence in Polling (September 2025): 87% of likely voters supported requiring proof of citizenship to register to vote (only 9% opposed). This included 96% of Republicans, 80% of Democrats, and 86% of Independents. Many respondents (62%) incorrectly believed federal law already requires it.
• YouGov/Economist (March 2026): 59% strongly or somewhat supported requiring proof of citizenship to register (29% opposed). Republicans were near-unanimous (~91%), while Democrats were divided (~35% support).
Broader voter ID (photo ID at the polls) consistently polls even higher, often in the mid-80s percent range (e.g., Gallup 84%, other polls ~80-83% overall).
Context
• Proof of citizenship typically means documents like a passport, birth certificate, or naturalization papers (stricter than standard photo ID or a simple sworn statement under penalty of perjury, which is the current federal baseline in most states).
• Support is often framed around election integrity concerns. Non-citizen voting is already illegal and rare, but polls show strong public backing for added safeguards.
• Some analyses note potential implementation challenges: studies estimate 9-12% of voting-age citizens (tens of millions) may lack ready access to such documents (e.g., lost birth certificates, name changes), though many could obtain them.
Polls can vary due to methodology, timing, and exact question phrasing, but the data consistently shows broad, majority support (often supermajority) for this requirement. For the most current figures, check sources like Gallup, Pew, or Rasmussen.
No. of Recommendations: 23
“Our president has already lost and left the office once before. “
He left only because his coup attempt failed.
“Support is often framed around election integrity concerns. Non-citizen voting is already illegal and rare”
And there’s the rub. It’s not a real issue. It’s a solution looking for a problem. I wouldn’t mind having universal voter id, if it was made easy and accessible to every citizen. But it’s not. The so called SAVE act is designed to massively purge the voter rolls of legitimate voters, primarily those who might vote against your party. Your president has said so himself. It is clearly, openly, and explicitly meant to choose your voters “for the next hundred years “, to quote your president.
No. of Recommendations: 11
Texirish: As I've noted before, I've now lived more than one-third of the history of the USA as a country. I've never been more concerned about how it is being governed now.
My wife (the Exxon retiree) and I often say that you have to worry when long term oil company employees are concerned about a right-wing administration. Hope you had a good holiday!
No. of Recommendations: 1
I wouldn’t mind having universal voter id, if it was made easy and accessible to every citizen. But it’s not.
"The issue is never the issue. The issue is always the revolution."
No. of Recommendations: 6
Support is often framed around election integrity concerns. Non-citizen voting is already illegal and rare”
You win! I can’t argue with a lib who gets talking points from Whoopi Goldberg. 87% want to pass the save act…but you would rather die than lose your illegal voting base. I only use the Berkshire board to learn about Berkshire and investing from Jim and others. Why can’t you American-trump hating communists take this crap elsewhere? Please 🙏
No. of Recommendations: 1
87% want to pass the save act
To me, this sounds like a made up number. Perhaps it's 87% support only citizens voting but then it would probably be closer to 100%. Could you provide a reference to the 87% want to pass the Save act.
Aussi
No. of Recommendations: 17
You win! I can’t argue with a lib who gets talking points from Whoopi Goldberg. 87% want to pass the save act…but you would rather die than lose your illegal voting base.
You acknowledged yourself that there is no illegal voting base. Illegal voting is rare, and it's mostly been done by Repugnicans who believe it's okay to cheat and voted for their dead mother. There is not a single known case of an election being decided by illegal votes in America.
