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Author: commonone 🐝 HONORARY
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Subject: Nikki Fails History 101
Date: 12/28/2023 9:10 AM
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At an campaign appearance in New Hampshire, republican presidential candidate Nikki Haley struggled to answer the question of what caused the Civil War: "I mean, I think the cause of the Civil War was basically how government was going to run. The freedoms and what people couldn't do."

Umm, you mean own Black people?

When pressed about why she was having difficulty using the word 'slavery,' Haley replied: "What do you want me to say about slavery?"

President Biden, on Twitter, retweeted the video of Haley failing History 101 with the single sentence: "It was about slavery."

Evidently, in today's republican party, in addition to "Don't say gay," there's "Don't say slavery."

What kind of a political party is it that insists that its presidential candidates pretend that slavery never existed?

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Author: LurkerMom   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Nikki Fails History 101
Date: 12/28/2023 9:45 AM
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Nikki Haley struggled to answer the question of what caused the Civil War

Oh my, the sky is falling! What earth shaking news!

Meanwhile your city, Chicago, is on the verge of collapse and President Biden
is off on another vacation....”What? Me worry?
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Author: hclasvegas   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Nikki Fails History 101
Date: 12/28/2023 9:49 AM
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"" What kind of a political party is it that insists that its presidential candidates pretend that slavery never existed?"" good morning bud, I know you would never be factually challenged, so I googled it for confirmation. Which republican candidates ," pretend that slavery never existed? " I'm confused, do you want trump to be the republican nominee ? Haley ? OR, would you prefer Joe run unopposed so that he is clearly the sharpest guy in the race ? Thank you.
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Author: EchotaSheeple   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Nikki Fails History 101
Date: 12/28/2023 10:33 AM
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Yeah but Sticky Nikki is a darling for the corrupt Wall Streeters who gut the middle class and for the war machine that KILLS the middle class.

Goldman Sachs.

Israel.

Netanyahu.

Israel.

AIPAC.

That "whole cabal".

Remember the TMF Liberals using the word "cabal"?

It's nice when I do it too right?

It's time it went mainstream - - seems lots of stuff is going mainstream :)


Think Blue.
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Author: commonone 🐝 HONORARY
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Subject: Re: Nikki Fails History 101
Date: 12/28/2023 12:35 PM
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LurkerMom: Meanwhile your city, Chicago, is on the verge of collapse...

hclasvegas: I'm confused, do you want trump to be the republican nominee ? Haley ? OR, would you prefer Joe run unopposed so that he is clearly the sharpest guy in the race ? Thank you.

EchotaSheeple: Yeah but Sticky Nikki is a darling for the corrupt Wall Streeters...

As my mother liked to say when presented with pointless non-sequiturs: "What's that got to do with the price of tea in China?"
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Author: hclasvegas   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Nikki Fails History 101
Date: 12/28/2023 1:37 PM
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"" As my mother liked to say when presented with pointless non-sequiturs: "What's that got to do with the price of tea in China?" Tell your mom you were busted passing on inaccurate information, again, let us know how she responds to that? Thank you.
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Author: commonone 🐝 HONORARY
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Subject: Re: Nikki Fails History 101
Date: 12/28/2023 1:42 PM
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hclasvegas: Tell your mom you were busted passing on inaccurate information, again...

Inaccurate how, exactly?
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Author: hclasvegas   😊 😞
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Date: 12/28/2023 2:14 PM
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"" Inaccurate how, exactly?"" common, level with us bro. Are you a retired slip and fall lawyer trying to practice outside your level of expertise, with your word games? WHO " pretends that slavery never existed ?" Thank you.
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Author: commonone 🐝 HONORARY
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Date: 12/28/2023 2:36 PM
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hclasvegas: WHO " pretends that slavery never existed?"

Nikki Haley, the former governor of South Carolina, the first state to secede from the Union, a founding member of the states of the Confederacy, a state which explained that the reason for its secession was slavery.

By refusing to say "slavery," Haley pretended that slavery was not the cause of the Civil War and effectively acted as though it never existed. And in the worst unforced error since Dukakis and the tank, killed her political career and political aspirations. Her campaign is dead.
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Author: hclasvegas   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Nikki Fails History 101
Date: 12/28/2023 2:42 PM
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One imperfect response is going to end her campaign? Come on man, have you heard of Trump or Biden? https://www.thoughtco.com/top-causes-of-the-civil-...
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Author: g0177325 🐝  😊 😞
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Date: 12/28/2023 2:44 PM
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By refusing to say "slavery," Haley pretended that slavery was not the cause of the Civil War and effectively acted as though it never existed. And in the worst unforced error since Dukakis and the tank, killed her political career and political aspirations. Her campaign is dead.

I don't know. Did she pretend slavery didn't exist, or simply overlook the fact that it was the cause of the Civil War? Surely she must have known that to deliberately not mention slavery would be a fatal error. Even I could tell this was a "gotcha" question. But I suppose, either way, it doesn't present her in the best light: as either an obscurantist or an idiot!
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Author: hclasvegas   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Nikki Fails History 101
Date: 12/28/2023 2:54 PM
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Breaking news pal. When candidates are out there taking questions for hours daily, some answers will not be perfect. On the other hand, when a candidate takes a few planted questions a week, and he has a Q card to read the response, unforced errors are unlikely. Do the math my brother. If Joe can't do a 30 minute Q and A with the View, Morning Joe, or Maddow, he can't run, imo, but we shall see.
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Author: commonone 🐝 HONORARY
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Subject: Re: Nikki Fails History 101
Date: 12/28/2023 3:07 PM
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g0177325: Even I could tell this was a "gotcha" question.

That was about the biggest softball that's ever been pitched in New Hampshire. Any presidential candidate who cannot answer a question that just about every 10-year-old in America can correctly answer isn't qualified for the presidency.

Jeebus, what happened to republicans?

Nikki Haley says the Civil War was fought over "how the government was going to be run".

Ron DeSantis says slavery taught essential skills.

Trump quotes Hitler.

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Author: hclasvegas   😊 😞
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Date: 12/28/2023 3:35 PM
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"" Jeebus, what happened to republicans?

Nikki Haley says the Civil War was fought over "how the government was going to be run".

Ron DeSantis says slavery taught essential skills.

Trump quotes Hitler."" And Joe isn't allowed to speak much or at all , what a country!! You might not be reading the room correctly, Haley just proved she takes real questions from real voters. In other words, SHE, has pickle balls, WHERE is the chosen one?
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Author: ges 🐝  😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Nikki Fails History 101
Date: 12/28/2023 7:06 PM
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Any presidential candidate who cannot answer a question that just about every 10-year-old in America can correctly answer isn't qualified for the presidency.

How would Trump have answered it?
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Author: EchotaSheeple   😊 😞
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Date: 12/28/2023 7:26 PM
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To the Stikki Nikki fans of the right....

Remember I said - the Liberal haters will jump on her if she's the nominee?

They beat me to it.

BTW - Obama says we have 57 states......
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Subject: Re: Nikki Fails History 101
Date: 12/28/2023 9:17 PM
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What was the cause of the United States Civil War?

Nikki Haley Wednesday night: "I think the cause of the Civil War was basically how government was going to run, what you could and couldn't do, the freedoms in what people could and couldn't do."
Nikki Haley Thursday morning: "Of course the Civil War was about slavery, that's the easy part"
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/nikki-haley-asked...


Out of curiosity, I ran this by ChatGBT. Summary of ChatGBT 3.5 answers in different speaking styles:
ChatGBT: The most significant and divisive issue was slavery.

guess of what Abraham Lincoln might say: The primary cause, without question, was the institution of slavery.

guess of what Biden might say: There's no denying that the root cause was slavery.

guess of what Haley might say: There were issues of states' rights, economic differences, and yes, slavery was undeniably a deeply divisive issue.

guess of what Jefferson Davis might say: The War Between the States, as we often term it, was fundamentally about states' rights and the principles of self-governance. Yes, slavery was an important part of our economy and society, but it was a matter of states' rights—the right to govern ourselves as we saw fit within the framework of the Constitution.

guess of what Trump might say: It was all about states' rights. Now, some people say it was about slavery, but you know what? There were good people on both sides.
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Subject: Re: Nikki Fails History 101
Date: 12/28/2023 10:48 PM
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guess of what Jefferson Davis might say: The War Between the States, as we often term it, was fundamentally about states' rights and the principles of self-governance. Yes, slavery was an important part of our economy and society, but it was a matter of states' rights—the right to govern ourselves as we saw fit within the framework of the Constitution.

I think Jefferson Davis would have emphasized tariffs. For a year he had the Brits convinced that the war was being fought over unjust tariffs levied on the South by the North. Britain was very much into Free Markets and tariffs were anathema to them. Finally Lincoln sent over two men and they showed the Brits that all of the proposals to compromise before the war started said nothing about tariffs and were all about slavery.

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