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Author: AdrianC 🐝  😊 😞
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Subject: Golden Cross
Date: 10/23/25 10:19 AM
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Berkshire’s stock presents Warren Buffett with a ‘golden cross’ as his retirement nears
Bullish moving-average crossover appears for the first time in nearly three years — just before the famed investors calls it quits after a six-decade run
https://www.marketwatch.com/story/berkshires-stock...

Just as Berkshire Hathaway Inc.’s investors may be worrying that the stock’s rally off its August lows has run out of steam, a bullish chart pattern appeared Tuesday to suggest that Chief Executive Warren Buffett is set for a warm Wall Street send-off.

For the first time in nearly three years, Berkshire Hathaway’s 50-day moving average (50-DMA) — a metric widely used as a short-term trend tracker — crossed above its 200-day moving average (200-DMA), which is seen as a dividing line between long-term uptrends and downtrends.


So, I'm somewhat skeptical...but here is the chart:

https://stockcharts.com/sc3/ui/?s=BRK%2FB
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Author: mungofitch 🐝🐝 SILVER
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Subject: Re: Golden Cross
Date: 10/23/25 9:16 PM
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On the same subject of potentially dubious investment strategies, anyone else seen BRKD, a fund that is the inverse of Berkshire's stock performance?

*shudder*

Jim
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Author: jetjockey787   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Golden Cross
Date: 10/23/25 9:26 PM
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yeah, and add that near 1% expense ratio into your results, and you've really screwed yourself. Good luck!
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Author: hclasvegas   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Golden Cross
Date: 10/24/25 7:27 AM
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" On the same subject of potentially dubious investment strategies, anyone else seen BRKD, a fund that is the inverse of Berkshire's stock performance?

*shudder*

Jim"

Good morning bud, short interest is up but not that material, yet. Buffett doesn't have many arrows left in his bag to generate demand for the common, in the short run. Let's see how much more selling he did of key positions in q-3? In general, we do know that Buffett hates these gimmick type products. Have I mentioned a 1$$ quarterly div would help to squeeze the doubters?

Stay tuned.
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Author: AdrianC 🐝  😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Golden Cross
Date: 10/24/25 11:46 AM
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Buffett doesn't have many arrows left in his bag to generate demand for the common, in the short run. Let's see how much more selling he did of key positions in q-3? In general, we do know that Buffett hates these gimmick type products. Have I mentioned a 1$$ quarterly div would help to squeeze the doubters?

For your enjoyment - chart of the last 134 trading days:
https://stockcharts.com/freecharts/perf.php?SPY,BR...

SPY +34.59%
BRK -0.04%

And SPY up another 1% today while Berkshire languishes.

I don't know, man. What are we going to do? I hope this golden cross think works out. Buffett aint doing nothin' to juice the stock.
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Author: hclasvegas   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Golden Cross
Date: 10/24/25 1:14 PM
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“ Buffett aint doing nothin' to juice the stock.” Remind us how long have you been reading and posting on the boards and how long do you own brkb? Thanks.
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Author: rayvt   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Golden Cross
Date: 10/24/25 1:55 PM
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For your enjoyment - chart of the last 19.1 trading years (since the day I retired):

https://testfol.io/?s=ah8QMSrLzLB

BRK +667%
SPY +632%

They move in lockstep.

But I kick myself for not sticking with FCNTX which I started with.
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Author: mungofitch 🐝🐝 SILVER
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Subject: Re: Golden Cross
Date: 10/24/25 9:35 PM
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But I kick myself for not sticking with FCNTX which I started with.

It would have worked out well, but that presupposes you knew in advance that CAPE was going to rise from 25 to 40.5 in those 19.1 years. And that you sold before broad market valuations fall.

Jim
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Author: AdrianC 🐝  😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Golden Cross
Date: 10/25/25 8:39 AM
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“Buffett aint doing nothin' to juice the stock.”
Obviously that was a joke. Everyone got that, right?

Remind us how long have you been reading and posting on the boards and how long do you own brkb? Thanks.

You asked for it:
I first bought two B shares on 1/5/1999 at $2330/share. By 1/22/99 they were $2050/share and I bought two more. This pattern continued through 1999 and early 2000. Cheapest were two at $1450 and three at $1453 in February 2000.

I soon leaned those first shares were way overpriced. Currently 9.2% CAGR. Those much cheaper ones are at 11.7% CAGR.

I figured out how better to place a value on Berkshire (“intrinsic value”) and from then on only ever bought when it seemed quite cheap, and I had money, obviously. I bought some through the 2000's, a lot in 2008 and 2009. The best of those 2009 shares are at 15.3% CAGR.

You get the pattern.

I think my first post on The Motley Fool was about Berkshire book value and Buffett’s comments on share price, possibly including his “offer” to buyback at $45k in the 1999 annual letter. Probably in early 2000. The post was a continuation of work Benkea had posted on the Yahoo board. I didn’t post much on Yahoo. I had no idea what I was doing. I did used to read most everything Benkea wrote, and Iluvbabyb, Russ??, Eurotrash and some others. Some are no longer with us.

There used to be a way to search old TMF posts. The link is now broken. Don’t know if the posts are still out there. In some way I hope not, because I documented my excruciating religious deconstruction on TMF. No one wants to read that. Or my early investing mistakes. Berkshire was the one thing I did right.

That 1999 letter:
https://www.berkshirehathaway.com/letters/final199...

Excerpts: Buffett:
Recently, a number of shareholders have suggested to us that Berkshire repurchase its shares. Usually the requests were rationally based, but a few leaned on spurious logic.

You should be aware that, at certain times in the past, I have erred in not making repurchases. My appraisal of Berkshire’s value was then too conservative or I was too enthused about some alternative use of funds.

Some of the letters we’ve received clearly imply that the writer is unconcerned about intrinsic value considerations but instead wants us to trumpet an intention to repurchase so that the stock will rise (or quit going down). If the writer wants to sell tomorrow, his thinking makes sense — for him! — but if he intends to hold, he should instead hope the stock falls and trades in enough volume for us to buy a lot of it. That’s the only way a repurchase program can have any real benefit for a continuing shareholder.

We will not repurchase shares unless we believe Berkshire stock is selling well below intrinsic value, conservatively calculated. Nor will we attempt to talk the stock up or down. (Neither publicly or privately have I ever told anyone to buy or sell Berkshire shares.) Instead we will give all shareholders — and potential shareholders — the same valuation-related information we would wish to have if our positions were reversed.

Recently, when the A shares fell below $45,000, we considered making repurchases.

Please be clear about one point: We will never make purchases with the intention of stemming a decline in Berkshire’s price. Rather we will make them if and when we believe that they represent an attractive use of the Company’s money. At best, repurchases are likely to have only a very minor effect on the future rate of gain in our stock’s intrinsic value.

They never did buy any. The stock price quickly went up. Buffett is reported to have said later: "now that was a sign!"

$45k would have been 1.18x 1999 year end book value.

If you asked Buffett today, do you think his answer will be any different? He will never try to support the stock price. I hope Abel is the same.
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Author: AdrianC 🐝  😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Golden Cross
Date: 10/25/25 8:47 AM
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For your enjoyment - chart of the last 19.1 trading years (since the day I retired).

Congrats on a successful retirement, Ray.

From the same source, chart of 26.8 years, since I bought my first (overpriced) shares:

https://testfol.io/?s=7yaBe9VgWrf

BRK-B +981%
SPY +771%

So I did alright, I think. Lucky.
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Author: hclasvegas   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Golden Cross
Date: 10/25/25 8:55 AM
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" They never did buy any. The stock price quickly went up. Buffett is reported to have said later: "now that was a sign!"

$45k would have been 1.18x 1999 year end book value.

If you asked Buffett today, do you think his answer will be any different? He will never try to support the stock price. I hope Abel is the same."

Thanks, great stuff. So, when did Buffett finally, authorize a buyback, just authorize one? WHY did he stipulate such a tight buyback limit which he knew would quickly be exceeded if he had any intention of buying back stock?

" We will not repurchase shares unless we believe Berkshire stock is selling well below intrinsic value, conservatively calculated. Nor will we attempt to talk the stock up or down. (Neither publicly or privately have I ever told anyone to buy or sell Berkshire shares.) Instead we will give all shareholders — and potential shareholders — the same valuation-related information we would wish to have if our positions were reversed."

When it comes to brk, his opinion of IV was obviously way too conservative for way too long. Did he ever, talk up, or promote, the work of others, aka, Ginny - IBM etc? WHY promote high-cost alternatives to brk? That letter was written in 1999, in your opinion, why did it take so long to finally authorize buybacks at, material discounts to IV? The 1.1XS BV limit was serious, in your opinion, or an effort to get the stock above 1.1XS BV a valuation he thought was, fair value, at the time.

Thanks.
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Author: longtimebrk   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Golden Cross
Date: 10/25/25 9:01 AM
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Russ was a great poster from the ol' Yahoo Board days.

I often wonder is he is here just under a different need. I believe he always cautioned against group think.
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Author: tairbear00   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Golden Cross
Date: 10/28/25 12:41 AM
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lomgtimebrk commented:

Russ was a great poster from the ol' Yahoo Board days.
I often wonder (if) he is here just under a different name


I think russ_21401 is enjoying retirement. But I'm certain he enjoys his annonimity! I just emailed and invited him to this site...something I thought I already did, but apparently didn't. Over 12 years of stage 4 cancer meds and treatments is not conducive to one's memory or physical ability!

But, I'm sure, in any case, he would not post under a different name : )
I'm hoping he's ok and that we hear from him...
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