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Author: AlphaWolf 🐝🐝  😊 😞
Number: of 55812 
Subject: What’s the over/under?
Date: 07/04/2025 7:52 PM
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What’s the over/under for Trump to whine that he didn’t know anything about the BBB (Budget Busting Bullshit) bill and place all the blame on JD “what’s in your pants” Vance and “Micro” Mike Johnson?

Trump will claim he never read the bill and for once he’ll be telling the truth. Because he can’t read.

I’m going with under a month.

Hospitals already shutting down. Nursing homes next. It’s blowing up. It’s blowing up real good.

If you look up the word ‘clusterfuck’ in Webster’s online dictionary, there’s already a link to the BBB.
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Author: elann 🐝 GOLD
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Subject: Re: What’s the over/under?
Date: 07/04/2025 8:17 PM
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Hospitals already shutting down. Nursing homes next. It’s blowing up. It’s blowing up real good.

Don't get out over your skiis. If hospitals are shutting down it's not because of the Billionaire Bailout Bill. The Medicaid cuts don't go into effect until 2028. These guys are more cleverly evil than you think. Come the 2026 elections they'll be saying - see, nothing bad came out of this bill, you Chicken Littles. Nobody lost their Medicaid (yet).

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Author: EchotaBaaa   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: What’s the over/under?
Date: 07/05/2025 8:38 AM
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So......

1.)Should you use this ClusterFuck - to DEFEAT those who caused it, and when you win congress feel giddy that you won what you were gonna win anyways?


2.)Should yo*again* screw it up and let the party that caused this - win again?


3.)Should you not only DEFEAT those who caused it, but WIN such a national victory where you have the political capital not only to reverse this, BUT put things in that you've been told "you just can't get done" in the past?


I wonder which one you want.

I guess i'm one of the few here who - likes to win elections and see governance.
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Author: jerryab   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: What’s the over/under?
Date: 07/05/2025 10:03 AM
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win elections and see governance.

So far, neither has happened.
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Author: AlphaWolf 🐝🐝  😊 😞
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Subject: Re: What’s the over/under?
Date: 07/05/2025 11:06 AM
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These guys are more cleverly evil than you think. Come the 2026 elections they'll be saying - see, nothing bad came out of this bill, you Chicken Littles. Nobody lost their Medicaid (yet).

Evil, yes.

Clever, too clever by half.

The polling for the bill is mostly under water, which is unusual for a bill that hands out a lot of tax breaks.

Old folks (who tend to vote in large numbers) may be hard of hearing, but when you say Medicaid or Social Security, their hearing is quite good. Groups they trust, like AARP, will be having lots of information about this. They like the additional over-65 standard deduction, but will also be loud a clear about other provisions that will hurt seniors such as loss of healthcare and SNAP.

Sure, most changes were punted until after the election, but businesses plan ahead. They won’t wait for the train to hit them before they get off the track. Hence, the Nebraska hospital closing.

James Carville calls it a Mass Extinction Event for Republicans. As usual, Carville is over the top. But it won’t take changing a whole lot of seats to flip Congress these days.

I’m keeping with 30 days. 😎



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