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Author: albaby1 🐝 HONORARY
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Subject: Powell cops a plea deal
Date: 10/19/2023 10:16 AM
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Sidney Powell is pleading guilty in the Georgia election interference case:

https://www.cnn.com/2023/10/19/politics/sidney-pow...

Six years probation, with an obligation to testify at future trials.
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Author: ges 🐝  😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Powell cops a plea deal
Date: 10/19/2023 10:26 AM
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But I wonder if she testifies what will come out of her loony mouth. She seems genuinely delusional.
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Subject: Re: Powell cops a plea deal
Date: 10/19/2023 10:30 AM
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She does not deserve to get off with only six years of probation. Simply having the title "lawyer" was enough for her to play a material role in not only possibly concocting the bogus theories for "alternate slates" but acting as a public face to the rubes in two or three different states, including Georgia. I don't know why the prosecutors seem to be discounting their evidence and surrendering VASTLY lighter sentences for aggregious conduct. We're not talking about the actions of -- pardon me -- some poorly educated hick in the Trump demographic. We're talking about someone supposedly part of the profession class -- the legal profession -- who should be thwarting these types of scams rather than facilitating them.


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Subject: Re: Powell cops a plea deal
Date: 10/19/2023 10:32 AM
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But I wonder if she testifies what will come out of her loony mouth. She seems genuinely delusional.

And THAT is another good reason for not allowing these people to plead for lesser sentences. They are all liars and absolutely crazy. What use is their word on the stand in supporting charges against anyone else?


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Author: albaby1 🐝 HONORARY
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Subject: Re: Powell cops a plea deal
Date: 10/19/2023 10:36 AM
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But I wonder if she testifies what will come out of her loony mouth. She seems genuinely delusional.

Yes. It seems like it would be child's play to impeach her on cross - she's made so many public statements that are ridiculously false that any competent defense attorney should be able to tear her credibility to shreds.

I suspect that the value to prosecutors is less her testimony, and more as an example. That's a pretty light plea deal - no jail time or even house confinement, just probation. That's a good deal. And even though she may not be great on the stand, now that the DA has one high-profile cooperating witness they'll be able to get a lot of information about conversations with the other defendants that they might not have had access to before - so even if Powell is useless on the stand, she'll be a gold mine for discovery and trial prep. Those things should get some of the other defendants thinking about whether they want to try to get a no-jail plea.



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Subject: Re: Powell cops a plea deal
Date: 10/19/2023 11:42 AM
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And note the details of the plea agreement. She pleaded guilty to six MISDEMEANOR charges of election interference. The prosection REMOVED the criminal charge of racketeering. She might help the prosection tie together details which might simplify making the case against others but removing the criminal racketeering charge might be construed as weakness in that larger case. And now that we know that election tampering isn't an outlier strategy, states need to re-examine election laws and ensure such actions are reclassified as criminal offenses with much steeper penalties.

If these participants keep pleading out to MISDEMEANOR charges and avoid jail, we now know there are THOUSANDS of clueless idiots in every community willing to perform these acts at the local level if they think it will help their guy gain power and they just face a financial penalty (even though most cannot afford the penalties). This WILL happen again.


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Author: albaby1 🐝 HONORARY
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Subject: Re: Powell cops a plea deal
Date: 10/19/2023 12:10 PM
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She might help the prosection tie together details which might simplify making the case against others but removing the criminal racketeering charge might be construed as weakness in that larger case.

Oh, I don't think so. There are different, and important, legal consequences to being convicted of a felony as opposed to misdemeanors. That was almost certainly a deal point between prosecutors and defense counsel, rather than an assessment (on either side) of the substantive strength of any specific charge. I don't think other defense counsel are likely to draw an inference about the strength of the baby RICO charges based on a plea deal.

A more plausible explanation (IMHO) is that she got a really good deal because she was the first main player (not the bail bonds guy) to cut a deal. They'll keep that door open to the other surrounding cast - the ones who weren't on the Raffensperger call - but not the main architects of the effort to change Georgia's electoral vote allocation.
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Subject: Re: Powell cops a plea deal
Date: 10/19/2023 8:03 PM
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That's a pretty light plea deal - no jail time or even house confinement, just probation. That's a good deal.

How does she not get disbarred for a crime of that magnitude?
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Subject: Re: Powell cops a plea deal
Date: 10/19/2023 8:30 PM
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there is some unspecified documentation SP has agreed to provide; may be a nothingburger, or valuable enough not to need rely on her credibility on the stand.

some small part of her lawyer brain may recall that perjury likely violates her wrist-slap probation, and will force her to stick to facts in court rather than her public persona(?) of delusion. even trump mostly shuts his mouth under oath.

would be hilarious if cheesebro didn't see this GUILTY plea coming.
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Subject: Re: Powell cops a plea deal
Date: 10/20/2023 8:16 AM
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How does she not get disbarred for a crime of that magnitude?

There's a good chance that she will be, now. I don't know the rules of the Texas bar, but I wouldn't be surprised if they contemplate disciplinary action when a lawyer is convicted of a crime.
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