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Author: WendyBG HONORARY
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Subject: Control Panel: Speculation on Warsh, silver, gold
Date: 02/01/26 11:42 AM
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I’m halfway through the new book, " 1929: Inside the Greatest Crash in Wall Street History–and How It Shattered a Nation," by Andrew Ross Sorkin. It’s not suspenseful, since we all know how it ends, but the details are interesting.

The 1920s bull market was driven by speculation. Margin up to 90% was allowed. In 1929 more retail investors piled in. Ordinary working people as well as the rich borrowed heavily and invested their savings. The margin debts were collateralized by their stock holdings. When the market plunged the baby was thrown out with the bathwater. All stocks plunged together.

The stock market is correlated with (and driven by) margin debt. Currently, Debit Balances in Customers’ Securities Margin Accounts is an astonishing $1.26 Trillion, which is 4% of GDP and up 30% in 2025.
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Pursuant to FINRA Rule 4521, FINRA member firms carrying margin accounts for customers are required to submit the following customer information: the total of all debit balances in securities margin accounts; and, the total of all free credit...

This counts only margin accounts at FINRA member firms and doesn’t include money borrowed to buy other assets, such as bonds, cryptocurrency and precious metals.

Like 1929, today’s leveraged speculators are vulnerable to reversals. They are counting on greater fools bidding up investments. If buyers back off the price of an investment can drop suddenly and sharply. Investments without a yield to support their value (e.g. stocks without dividends, commodities, cryptocurrency) don’t have a floor. Even investments that do have a yield can be dragged down by selling pressure of margin calls.

The real news this week is the nomination of Kevin Warsh as the next chair of the Federal Reserve.

As President Trump’s nominee for Federal Reserve chairman, Kevin Warsh’s background is of interest to all METARs. Trump is often fixated on the media and tends to select physically attractive people in his administration. He said that Warsh is “central casting” so we can’t exclude Mr. Warsh’s handsome looks (as opposed to his drab competition for the job) as heavily influencing Trump. https://www.nytimes.com/2026/01/31/business/kevin-… Kevin Warsh Has a Tough Job Ahead. It’s Not the First Tim…

Warsh obviously convinced President Trump that he would cut the fed funds rate which is Trump’s primary objective. However, Trump doesn’t seem to realize that longer-term interest rates are set by the bond market, not the Fed. The Fed has repressed long-term yields by buying massive amounts of Treasury and mortgage bonds during Quantitative Easing (QE).
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But Warsh hates QE and actually quit his job as a Fed governor in protest over QE. Warsh believes in strict separation between monetary (Fed) and fiscal (Congress) stimulation. If he sticks to his guns, Warsh will refuse to monetize growing federal deficits by buying Treasury debt. He will reject financial repression where the Fed bails out the Treasury.

Warsh has been a master of conciliation since his college days. So he will surely avoid upsetting the markets in the short term. He may even support a cut in the fed funds rate in April or June but of course the FOMC makes a committee decision. Current Fed Chair Jerome Powell moves out of the chairmanship in May but it’s likely he will remain on the FOMC.

The commodities market doesn’t expect a fed funds rate cut until June and even then only 0.25%.
https://www.cmegroup.com/markets/interest-rates/cm...

Far more important is the 10 year Treasury yield which impacts business lending, consumer lending and mortgages. Even though the fed funds (overnight) rate was cut the 10 year Treasury yield has climbed since October. The real yield has hovered in a channel between 1.5 - 2%. This isn’t much but it’s a lot higher than the post-GFC years when the Fed repressed the yield with QE and the real yield was usually under 1% and sometimes less than 0%.

If Warsh is true to his writings and beliefs he will refuse QE (barring a true emergency) and let the Fed’s bloated book roll off. That will result in higher long-term bond yields.

Higher long-term bond yields will make U.S. bonds more attractive and support the weakening USD. The USD bounced and gold and silver dropped as soon as Warsh’s nomination was announced.

Nominal bond yields are the sum of real yields plus inflation expectations. The 10-Year Breakeven Inflation Rate has been stable in a channel between 2.0 - 2.5% since 2023.
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10-Year Breakeven Inflation Rate

Multivariate Core Trend of PCE Inflation from the NY Fed has been declining and is close to the Fed’s goal of 2.0%. However, the Cleveland Fed’s Inflation Nowcasting shows a rising CPI. (Which impacts my TIPS and I-Bonds directly.) The Atlanta Fed’s Underlying Inflation Dashboard still shows a lot of red.

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The Atlanta Fed’s GDPNow model estimate for real GDP growth (seasonally adjusted annual rate) in the fourth quarter of 2025 was 4.2 percent on January 29, down from 5.4 percent on January 26. Despite the small decline this is still a very strong growth prediction. With CPI still high and GDP strong the Fed will not have a reason to cut the fed funds rate.

Higher bond yields and a stronger USD are both likely to weaken stock prices. Bonds will be more competitive with stocks. A higher USD means greater competitive pressure for U.S. companies selling into international markets.

This is speculative…but we are talking about speculators, after all.

The Chicago Fed’s National Financial Conditions Index (NFCI), which provides a comprehensive weekly update on U.S. financial conditions in money markets, debt and equity markets, and the traditional and “shadow” banking systems, showed that financial conditions got even looser. Financial stress fell back as the Fed pumped some money into the system to relieve liquidity in banks. This was short-term, not QE.

The stock indexes are still in a rising trend but Bullish Percent is languishing. VIX is rising. The Fear & Greed Index is slightly in Greed. The trade, which had been risk-on, suddenly turned to neutral to slightly risk-off. This is short-term and could be noise. Time will tell. SPX is in a historic bubble as the Price-to- earnings ratio based on average inflation-adjusted earnings from the previous 10 years, known as the Cyclically Adjusted P/E Ratio (CAPE Ratio) is over 40 compared with the historic median of 16. Anyone who can read a chart will find this scary. Especially since the rah-rah enthusiasm of 2026 over AI is so similar to the rah-rah enthusiasm over the internet in 1999.
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Shiller PE Ratio chart, historic, and current data. Current Shiller PE Ratio is 40.81, a change of -0.13 from previous market close.

Energy prices are rising due to the cold weather. Gold, silver and bitcoin fell off a cliff. Time will tell whether the bubble popped or whether this is noise.

The METAR for next week is partly cloudy. The gold and silver bubbles may or may not have popped. It’s hard to know how that will affect the stock market which may ignore it and continue its rising trend. The METAR is a short-term forecast. If bubbles start to pop the METAR may change to a sudden squall.

Wendy


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Author: PucksFool 🐝  😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Control Panel: Speculation on Warsh, silver, gold
Date: 02/01/26 12:37 PM
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My wife is reading Sorkin's book now. She keeps saying, "We're doing the same things." It is high on my TBR list, but I may have to do a deep dive into MG fantasy lit to recover.
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Author: WendyBG HONORARY
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Subject: Re: Control Panel: Speculation on Warsh, silver, gold
Date: 02/01/26 2:56 PM
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<My wife is reading Sorkin's book now. She keeps saying, "We're doing the same things." >

Yes, that is Sorkin's main point.
Wendy
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Date: 02/01/26 4:16 PM
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Agree re: Andrew Ross Sorkin's new book.

I've spent a lot of time in the last twelve years in a self-education thread I think of as "WTF happened to my country while I wasn't looking?" series.

Over the last twelve months, Sorkin's book comes in second to Peak Human, by Johan Norberg.

I strongly recommend this one. Sixty-plus pages apiece on seven civilizations: Athens, Rome, the third Islamic caliphate, Song China, Renaissance Italy, the Dutch Republic, and the "Anglosphere" i.e. British -> American hegemony:

- what were their advantages in time and place?
- what good choices were made?
- how did they deal with almost unlimited political power?
- how did they screw it up?

History rhymes very, very strongly in this book. I particularly learned things about the Dutch Republic that sounded like last year's news, but the takeaway is: no very good reason to assume this time it's different. (TL;DR: There is no advantage that wise leaders endow that can't be screwed up a few generations down the road)

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Runners-up were:
American Midnight: The Great War, a Violent Peace, and Democracy's Forgotten Crisis" by Adam Hoschild. A good companion volume to Sorkin's book, as it covers the preceding decade. I just finished this one last week. Very readable.

Over Ruled: The Human Toll of Too Much Law by Neil Gorsuch. I'm not a Gorsuch fan, but even a blind pig etc. Wonder how Fox News fell on such fertile soil in flyover country? Were I a farmer, rancher, fisherman or even a trades contractor, I'd be done, too.

The Kingdom, the Power, and the Glory: American Evangelism in an Age of Extremism" by Tim Alberta. This one may be from 2023. But, still. It's well researched, from a potentially sympathetic author, and thoroughly damning while falling short of a rant.

A little OT but a more digestible read on materials science then some of his earlier tomes is Vaclav Smil's "How the World Really Works: The Science Behind How We Got Here and Where We're Going" (It's a little one-sided IMO - Malthus hasn't been right so far, after all)

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and while I'm pontificating: Wendy et al have occasionally discussed fiat currencies here. While the world gradually adopted paper money in stages, one key moment for this country was the US Civil War 1861 - 1865. Roger Lowenstein's Ways and Means: Lincoln and His Cabinet and the Financing of the Civil War is wonderful. (Next step: getting the population to accept paper not backed by precious metals. See: Roosevelt, Franklin D)

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apropos of the "It takes a man to build a barn but any jackass can kick one down" theme, my favorite new quote, from ca. 330 BC:
So true is it, evidently, that a base nature, when given great indulgence, generates public disasters.
οὕτως ὡς ἔοικε πονηρὰ φύσις, μεγάλης ἐξουσίας ἐπιλαβομένη, δημοσίας ἀπεργάζεται συμφοράς. Aeschines, Against Ctesiphon 147 (tr. Chris Carey)


--sutton
back to figuring out what happened in molecular biology while I was practicing medicine, i.e. my "Meanwhile, Back At The Lab Bench" series
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Subject: Re: Control Panel: Speculation on Warsh, silver, gold
Date: 02/02/26 8:58 AM
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Thanks for the recommendations. I just ordered "Peak Human."

sutton: There is no advantage that wise leaders endow that can't be screwed up a few generations down the road.

The Chinese have a saying, "First generation rich, fourth generation poor."

Wendy
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Date: 02/02/26 7:43 PM
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Are we at the cusp of an un winding of the margin bubble?
Jeff

CoPilot AI take:
Global markets are sliding as a dramatic collapse in gold and silver prices triggers a broad risk-off wave. Precious metals are suffering their steepest multi‑day declines since the 1980s, and the shock is spilling into equities worldwide, with U.S., European, and Asian markets all under pressure.
What’s Driving the Selloff
- Historic plunge in precious metals:
- Gold is experiencing its sharpest three‑day drop since 1980, unwinding a record-breaking rally.
- Silver has fallen 30–40% in just days, marking its worst stretch in decades.
- Stronger U.S. dollar: A firmer dollar is accelerating the metals reversal and prompting investors to take profits.
- Federal Reserve uncertainty: Reports of Kevin Warsh’s nomination as Fed Chair eased concerns about Fed independence, strengthening the dollar and pressuring metals further.
- Profit-taking after a massive rally: Gold and silver had surged to record highs earlier in the week, leaving markets stretched and vulnerable to a sharp correction.
How Stocks Are Reacting
- Global equities are falling:
- The MSCI All Country World Index is down as investors de‑risk across regions.
- S&P 500 futures point lower, down about 0.7% after a deeper overnight slide.
- Asia hit hardest:
- South Korea’s Kospi—a key AI-sector bellwether—plunged 5.3%, signaling stress in high‑growth sectors.
- European markets softer but still red: Losses are more muted but reflect the same risk-off sentiment.
- Bitcoin stabilizing: After a weekend selloff, Bitcoin is hovering near $77,000, showing less volatility than metals.
Why This Matters
- Metals are often a barometer of fear. When even safe-haven assets collapse, it signals deeper instability.
- Cross‑asset volatility is rising, which can lead to forced selling and liquidity stress.
- The rally in metals had become speculative, and its unwinding is now dragging down broader markets.
What to Watch Next
- Dollar strength and Treasury yields—key indicators of whether the selloff deepens.
- Fed commentary following the Warsh nomination.
- Whether metals stabilize or continue their historic slide.
- Spillover into mining stocks, tech, and other high‑beta sectors.
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Date: 02/02/26 7:46 PM
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Speculative short time?
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