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Author: longtimebrk 🐝  😊 😞
Number: of 12641 
Subject: On topic -Apple
Date: 09/15/2023 8:41 AM
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since we own so much via BRK. I'm personally out of my longstanding Apple position



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H3k4gPC7qrM

Apple's stock valuation is unreasonable, reflecting how it's a "shrinking company," Bill Miller IV said.

"I think somebody needs to tell the market that Apple is a shrinking company trading at a growth company multiple," the chairman of Miller Value Partners said.

Apple stock has taken a hit in recent weeks thanks to a partial ban of iPhones by China.

Apple's current stock-market valuation reflects unrealistic growth expectations, according to the chairman of Miller Value Partners.

The makes of iPhones and iPads is the most valued company in the world, with a current market capitalization of around $2.73 trillion. The measure briefly surpassed $3 trillion earlier this year, the only stock to ever reach that milestone.

Given the sheer size of the tech giant's revenue base, it's difficult for it to deliver growth rates that meet investor aspirations captured by the stock price, the fund manager suggested. Apple and other Big Tech shares are now trading at "very high" earnings multiples and as a result, a handful of such names account for as much as a third of the entire market capitalization, he added.

"Somebody needs to tell the market that Apple is a shrinking company trading at a growth company multiple," Bill Miller IV, the son of veteran fund manager Bill Miller, said in a CNBC interview Wednesday.

"If you just think about what it takes for Apple to grow from a $395 billion revenue base, the economy grew at 6% in Q2. Let's take 6% of $395 billion, that's $24 billion in revenue. That's McDonald's revenue, that's Charles Schwab's revenue. It took decades to create these companies," he added.

"So to actually grow from this base is a very hard thing to do, yet it trades at 30x earnings which implies a high expectation for continued growth," Miller IV continued.
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Author: carolsharp   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: On topic -Apple
Date: 09/15/2023 11:38 AM
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Well, Buffett said Apple is a better business than any they own. Any!

Is it overvalued? Who knows.

But I care more about what Buffett thinks than Bill Miller.
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Author: Blackswanny   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: On topic -Apple
Date: 09/15/2023 12:11 PM
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I think the more interesting question would be "if Berkshire was much smaller would he still own it? at this valuation obviously he'd have more opportunities to chose from and recycle funds into if he sold it all or some.
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Author: longtimebrk 🐝  😊 😞
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Subject: Re: On topic -Apple
Date: 09/15/2023 1:00 PM
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the other point is we are not Warren Buffet and manage smaller positions than $160 billion of apple
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