Avoid making negative or unhelpful posts, and instead focus on providing constructive feedback and ideas that can help to move the discussion forward.
- Manlobbi
Halls of Shrewd'm / US Policy
No. of Recommendations: 35
It is quite well known that the top US companies by market cap, most of them tech, were founded or are currently led by immigrants. What I just realized is that Berkshire, the quintessential “American” company too is one of them.
Abel and Jain are from Canada and India respectively. Jain’s designated successor Shamieh was born in Lebanon and raised in Australia. So he is an immigrant twice over.
May talented and ambitious immigrants be forever welcome in USA.
No. of Recommendations: 3
" May talented and ambitious immigrants be forever welcome in USA."
who opposes that?
No. of Recommendations: 18
You might want to relay that thought to the current US administration. They don't seem to understand we are a nation of immigrants. Sigh.
No. of Recommendations: 8
May talented and ambitious immigrants be forever welcome in USA.
I spent valuable time trying to understand the "4-d chess" argument against immigrants.
I finally realized there isn't one. Some people just like immigrants, some people dislike them (presumably there are some in between those extremes too).
And I am one of the ones who just like immigrants. I think they are funny and smart and hard-working. While they arguably cut into the salary I could command as one of the minority of european americans who is actually interested in and capable of world-class technical work, I'd much rather benefit from direct exposure to a mass of excellence and hard work, not to mention benefit from a bunch of tax payers who, even more than I did, volunteered to be here.
To be fair, I suspect, but am not sure, that there is such a thing as too many immigrants. But for a bunch of easily understandable reasons, I have no doubt the US could benefit immensely from a moderately well vetted set of 2 million immigrants a year based on our current socio-economic systems, and would love to see this tried.
R:)
No. of Recommendations: 1
" May talented and ambitious immigrants be forever welcome in USA."
hclasvegas asks:
who opposes that?
Myself I listened to Ann Coulter describing how Vivek Ramaswamy can never be American enough to be president of the United States.
But to get a more comprehensive answer I asked Google's AI precisely that question and here is its answer.
Opposition to high-skilled immigration primarily stems from populist political factions and certain labor groups. They argue that guest worker programs (like H-1B visas) depress wages, displace American professionals, and are exploited by corporations to hire cheaper labor rather than addressing actual domestic talent shortages.Groups opposing the expansion or favoring the restriction of talented immigrants include:Certain MAGA Republicans & Nationalists: Figures like former White House adviser Steve Bannon and political activists like Laura Loomer have vocally opposed the H-1B program, arguing that all immigration curbs are essential to an "America First" agenda and preserving local jobs.Protectionist Labor Advocates & Researchers: Scholars associated with the Economic Policy Institute and some public policy professors, like Ron Hira of Howard University, argue that the temporary worker visa system is routinely abused by major corporations to undercut salaries and outsource white-collar jobs.Left-Leaning Populists: Some progressive Democrats (including Sen. Bernie Sanders, I-Vt.) have historically criticized the H-1B system. They argue it creates a captive, underpaid foreign workforce and enables tech monopolies rather than cultivating domestic talent.Despite this opposition, polling from groups like the Economic Innovation Group indicates that the majority of American voters across the political spectrum actually favor expanding pathways for high-skilled and talented immigrants.Would you like to explore how current policies or specific visa caps are affecting a particular industry or region?
Thank you for asking.
No. of Recommendations: 2
Is this now more an more a forum where AI is "posting"?
No. of Recommendations: 4
I have no doubt the US could benefit immensely from a moderately well vetted set of 2 million immigrants a year based on our current socio-economic systems, and would love to see this tried.
FWIW, if the US immigration rate were the same as the recent Canadian rates as a percent of population (about 1.19%), US immigration would be around 4.1 million a year.
I'm not advocating this, nor saying it's a bad idea, just an interesting number.
Jim
No. of Recommendations: 28
I picked up a copy of George W. Bush’s book “Out Of Many, One” in it he shares a few quotes.
This one from President Ronald Reagan:
“This, I believe, is one of the most important sources of America’s greatness. We lead the world because, unique among nations, we draw our people—our strength—from every country and every corner of the world. And by doing so, we continuously renew and enrich our nation.”
And this one from his own time in the Oval Office:
“We’re a nation of laws, and we must enforce our laws. We’re also a nation of immigrants, and we must uphold that tradition, which has strengthened our country in so many ways. These are not contradictory goals. America can be a lawful society and a welcoming society at the same time.”
No. of Recommendations: 30
And this one from his own time in the Oval Office:
“We’re a nation of laws, and we must enforce our laws. We’re also a nation of immigrants, and we must uphold that tradition, which has strengthened our country in so many ways. These are not contradictory goals. America can be a lawful society and a welcoming society at the same time.”
Not only a positive sentiment, but also statistically defensible.
US immigrants commit crimes at a lower rate than the native born, so having more immigrants is certainly consistent with seeing a more law abiding society...
e.g., US natives have been incarcerated at a rate of about 27 per 1000 2010-2024, illegal immigrants at roughly half that rate, and legal immigrants lowest of the three groups. Similar findings pretty consistently since the 19th century. About the only notable subgroup exception among various origin regions and time frames was Latin American immigrants prior to 1960, who apparently didn't behave that well.
Jim
No. of Recommendations: 11
"Land of the free"...
5% of the world population, 25% of the world inmates...
We're #1, we're #1!
