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Author: commonone 🐝 HONORARY
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Subject: bighairymike, you mean like this?
Date: 07/20/2023 10:22 AM
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Yesterday, you wrote about what you believed to be a veiled threat by the White House and I noticed this morning that former president Trump reTruthed this message -- captioned "We aren't afraid of them." -- with a voiceover of Trump himself saying: 'If you f*ck around with us, if you do something bad to us, we are going to do things to you that have never been done before.'

Now there's whatcha' call a threat.

And from a former president of the United States, yet.

So would you call that a call to arms, I wonder?

Just askin'.



https://twitter.com/RonFilipkowski/status/16819840...
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Author: bighairymike   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: bighairymike, you mean like this?
Date: 07/20/2023 11:04 AM
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Yesterday, you wrote about what you believed to be a veiled threat by the White House and I noticed this morning that former president Trump reTruthed this message -- captioned "We aren't afraid of them." -- with a voiceover of Trump himself saying: 'If you f*ck around with us, if you do something bad to us, we are going to do things to you that have never been done before.'

Now there's whatcha' call a threat.

And from a former president of the United States, yet.

So would you call that a call to arms, I wonder?

Just askin'. - CO


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LOL. The old your guy did something worse (Trump intimidation as described above), so the behavior of my guy (DOJ veiled threats to Social Media) is excused. Good way to run a country.
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Author: sano 🐝  😊 😞
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Subject: Re: bighairymike, you mean like this?
Date: 07/20/2023 1:12 PM
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Context?
To whom was Trump speaking when this was recorded?

Trump Truth Social post: 'If you f*ck around with us, if you do something bad to us, we are going to do things to you that have never been done before.'
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Author: commonone 🐝 HONORARY
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Subject: Re: bighairymike, you mean like this?
Date: 07/20/2023 1:31 PM
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bighairymike: LOL. The old your guy did something worse (Trump intimidation as described above), so the behavior of my guy (DOJ veiled threats to Social Media) is excused. Good way to run a country.

Well, no. But I am saying there's a difference between punching someone in the nose and stabbing him to death.

Or do you think all bad behavior is the same, that one bad behavior is just like every other bad behavior?
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Author: LurkerMom   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: bighairymike, you mean like this?
Date: 07/20/2023 2:33 PM
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If you f*ck around with us, if you do something bad to us, we are going to do things to you that have never been done before.'

Interesting....
Russia, North Korea and other foes of America were quiet during Trump's four years.

I wonder what he told them? Yep, the street fighter from the Bronx takes no sh1t.

And the wimp we have in the WH talks big but the 'big guy' hides in the basement while NKorea and Russia treats him like the coward he is.
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Author: Dope1   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: bighairymike, you mean like this?
Date: 07/20/2023 3:06 PM
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And the wimp we have in the WH talks big but the 'big guy' hides in the basement while NKorea and Russia treats him like the coward he is.

When you give away all your ammo to somebody else and aren't smart enough to spool up production at the same time, it doesn't matter how tough the person in the White House is.
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Author: sheila727   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: bighairymike, you mean like this?
Date: 07/20/2023 4:49 PM
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Yep, the street fighter from the Bronx takes no sh1t.

Don't denigrate the Bronx. Orange Man grew up in Queens.

Trump was Putin's staunch admirer, and made it clear that he thought Russia's invasion and annexation of Crimea was just fine. He repeated a Kremlin talking point, saying, 'The people of Crimea, from what I've heard, would rather be with Russia than where they were.' There was no strategy or diplomacy involved to make Putin behave better.

And in terms of North Korea, Kim Jong-un maintained the upper hand. As one illustration..... Spring 2020: North Korea test launches a new solid-fueled medium-range ballistic missile, the Pukguksong-2 (or KN-15). The test occurs while President Trump and Japanese Prime Minister Abe are holding their first summit at Trump's Mar-a-Lago resort.

And an assessment by the Wilson Center basically illustrated how effectively Kim Jong-un played Trump. (The excerpt is long, but reads quickly.)
https://www.wilsoncenter.org/blog-post/donald-trum...

"It did not get off to an auspicious start. During Trump's first year in office, Kim Jong-un tested his first intercontinental ballistic missiles, demonstrating the potential to reach the U.S. homeland for the first time, along with a slew of short and medium-range projectiles and what appeared to be his first hydrogen bomb.

Trump threatened him with 'fire and fury like the world has never seen.' The two leaders traded insults. Tensions ratcheted up. By the fall of 2017 conflict looked like a real possibility. Kim was pictured studying strike plans with the head of his strategic forces. Jim Mattis, then U.S. Defense Secretary, slept in his clothes to be ready to give the order to shoot down an incoming North Korean missile. In a rare show of unity from the permanent members of the UN Security Council, even China and Russia were persuaded to back tough new sanctions on Pyongyang.

But then Kim Jong-un declared victory, proclaiming his nuclear force complete and abruptly shifting his attention to diplomacy. He still talked about the 'nuclear button' on his desk, but he also sent his sister to the 2018 Winter Olympics in South Korea 'the first member of the Kim family to cross the border since the Korean War ' and he invited Donald Trump to meet him 'as soon as possible,' who quickly agreed.

By meeting Kim, Trump was accused of legitimizing the young dictator and playing into his domestic propaganda ' both of which were valid concerns ' but that doesn't mean direct engagement was necessarily wrong. .... But from the outset the implementation was flawed. Trump treated the summit as a victory in itself, reveling in the media attention and acting as though he had pulled off something truly remarkable by persuading Kim to meet, when in fact North Korean leaders had long sought the prestige such an event would bring. Kim wasn't conceding anything by sitting down with Trump ' just the opposite ' he was proving that his strategy had worked, that by developing nuclear weapons he had forced the hostile imperialist enemy (as the United States is depicted in North Korea) to take him seriously and to treat the country with the dignity and respect it deserved. The photographs of Trump listening attentively to Kim, the cheering crowds, and the North Korean flag flying alongside the Stars and Stripes only underlined his point.

The summits themselves delivered little of substance for either side. Kim offered the same vague commitment to denuclearization his predecessors had given, sticking with the regime's preferred formulation on the removal of weapons from the 'Korean peninsula,' potentially including every U.S. base from which it could be targeted, rather than just North Korea. Trump rejected Kim's proposal to dismantle the Yongbyon nuclear facility in return for lifting sanctions, choosing instead to walk away from their second summit in Hanoi. Their final meeting on the border between North and South Korea amounted to barely more than a photocall. But along the way, the American president threw in some unexpected bonuses.

And he undermined his own officials, inadvertently signaling to Pyongyang that any working level agreements could be quickly overturned by the presidential Twitter account and they should hold out for another summit with the leader instead.

By the end of Trump's term, the talks had petered out and he had little more to show for his efforts than a drawer full of flattering letters. For all of the talk of their great personal relationship, Kim Jong Un had only advanced his capabilities once again. At a military parade in October, he rolled out his biggest intercontinental ballistic missile yet, immediately dubbed the 'monster missile' by analysts. Donald Trump could only add his name to the list of American presidents who had tried and failed to curb North Korea's nuclear ambitions before him."
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Author: sano 🐝  😊 😞
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Subject: Re: bighairymike, you mean like this?
Date: 07/20/2023 6:03 PM
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Yep, the street fighter from the Bronx takes no sh1t.

Are you high? Cadet Bonespurs is a grade A cowardly Manhattan lounge lizard.
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Author: ges 🐝  😊 😞
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Subject: Re: bighairymike, you mean like this?
Date: 07/21/2023 10:58 AM
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Yep, the street fighter from the Bronx takes no sh1t.

Are you high? Cadet Bonespurs is a grade A cowardly Manhattan lounge lizard.


Yes, the image of Trump as a manly tough guy is ridiculous. But in the cult he's a superman, an übermensch. There is no reality in cult world.
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Author: Lapsody 🐝  😊 😞
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Subject: Re: bighairymike, you mean like this?
Date: 07/21/2023 12:11 PM
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LM: Interesting....
Russia, North Korea and other foes of America were quiet during Trump's four years.

I wonder what he told them? Yep, the street fighter from the Bronx takes no sh1t.


It's because you live in an imaginary world Lurker Mom. One wonders if you think magic is real.



As North Korea fired off a series of missiles in recent months ' at least 18 since May ' President Trump has repeatedly dismissed their importance as short-range and 'very standard' tests. And although he has conceded 'there may be a United Nations violation,' the president says any concerns are overblown.

Kim Jong-un, North Korea's leader, Mr. Trump explained recently, just 'likes testing missiles.'

Now, American intelligence officials and outside experts have come to a far different conclusion: that the launchings downplayed by Mr. Trump, including two late last month, have allowed Mr. Kim to test missiles with greater range and maneuverability that could overwhelm American defenses in the region.

Japan's defense minister, Takeshi Iwaya, told reporters in Tokyo last week that the irregular trajectories of the most recent tests were more evidence of a program designed to defeat the defenses Japan has deployed, with American technology, at sea and on shore.
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/02/world/asia/nort...
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Author: Dope1   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: bighairymike, you mean like this?
Date: 07/21/2023 12:15 PM
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How many shooting wars were we involved in?

How many tons of ammunition, supplies, weapons and billions of dollars of aid did we need to send?
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Author: bighairymike   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: bighairymike, you mean like this?
Date: 07/21/2023 12:19 PM
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Now, American intelligence officials and outside experts have come to a far different conclusion: that the launchings downplayed by Mr. Trump, including two late last month, have allowed Mr. Kim to test missiles with greater range and maneuverability that could overwhelm American defenses in the region.

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Please remind me. What is Biden doing about the NK threat?
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Author: ges 🐝  😊 😞
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Subject: Re: bighairymike, you mean like this?
Date: 07/21/2023 3:58 PM
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Russia, North Korea and other foes of America were quiet during Trump's four years.

LOL.

They weren't Trump's foes. They were/are his role models.

He admires them and wants to be just like them. Of course he does, he's a narcissist who craves absolute power. Only a fool would wish for him to have it.
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