Halls of Shrewd'm / US Policy
No. of Recommendations: 24
For months it was “Drugs!Drugs!Drugs!”.
The new message, announced late this morning is “Oil!Oil!Oil!”
Lost in the shuffle- the “peace president” just did in Venezuela what Putin has tried to do in Ukraine.
We’ve just taken over another country. As Trump said today, “We’re going to run this country”- with some undisclosed “group” of country runners.
Machado? Nah. Trump said he really hasn’t been talking to the woman who actually defeated Maduro at the polls.
Welcome to the opening chapter of the next book in the series “Unintended Consequences”.
While it is undoubtedly true that you can’t make an omelette without breaking some eggs, it is also true that broken eggs do not insure the creation of an omelette.
Sometimes, all you end up with is broken eggs, salmonella poisoning and a lawsuit.
Meanwhile, the major news channels are ooh-ing and awe-ing over the technical proficiency of those who broke the eggs.
It was quite the technological feat, to be sure. Just as watching the German blitzkrieg in 1939 Poland was an impressive thing.
The unintended consequences of that particular display didn’t come home to roost for another five and a half years.
No. of Recommendations: 4
For months it was “Drugs!Drugs!Drugs!”.Still is. Plus, many things can be true at the same time.
Trump said he really hasn’t been talking to the woman who actually defeated Maduro at the polls.Because Rubio has.
I linked this weeks ago because I knew this board didn't know anything about Venezuela. Boy, was I right:
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c0q5p43qgl1oThe Wall Street Journal reports that to escape Venezuela, Machado wore a disguise, managed to get through 10 military checkpoints without being caught, and sailed away on a wooden skiff from a coastal fishing village.
The plan was two months in the making, it reports, citing a person close to the operation, and she was assisted by a Venezuelan network that helps people flee the country. The US was also involved, the report says, but it is unclear to what extent.
Machado did not deny these details to the BBC, but also would not elaborate on the journey.
Asked at a news conference if US authorities helped her, Machado said: "Yes, we did get support from the United States government."Who do you think helped get her out and why?
Also as usual, liberals can't think beyond today's talking points. You people claim to oppose Iran, China and Russia. How does this move affect those other places?
No. of Recommendations: 3
For months it was “Drugs!Drugs!Drugs!”.
We have been keeping track:
-terrorists
-drugs
-drugs are WMDs
-"they stole our oil"
-Islamic boogyman
-Iranian Islamic boogyman
As offered a few days ago: all the boogymen USians have been taught to fear, piled in together.
Steve
No. of Recommendations: 18
Also as usual, liberals can't think beyond today's talking points. You people claim to oppose Iran, China and Russia. How does this move affect those other places?
For one thing, it tells Russia to continue pursuing its war in Ukraine, because that is in its “sphere of influence”.
And it tells China that it has a green light to invade Taiwan, because that is in their sphere of influence.
No. of Recommendations: 3
For one thing, it tells Russia to continue pursuing its war in Ukraine, because that is in its “sphere of influence”.
But according to you people, the strategy was never to pursue peace (as Trump has). It was to wear Putin down. You all RIDICULED anyone pursuing the peace option.
Are you turning your messaging on a dime now?
And it tells China that it has a green light to invade Taiwan, because that is in their sphere of influence.
Yeah, no. But I'll tell you what would need to happen for there to be an equivalence. Never let it be said that I never help out the left!
Taiwan would have to:
-Have a President that lost an election overwhelmingly to another candidate, who was forced to flee the country to escape prosecution
-Have several superseding indictments with legit legal backing (as Trump does with Maduro)
-Have been running drugs and hosting terrorists
I grant you the Chinese are probably hard at work concocting that scenario. But whomever wrote that talking point is forgetting something. Can you guess what that something is?
No. of Recommendations: 9
Another message sent today:
Trump has declared that he sees the use of American troops in Venezuela in the same way he sees the use of American troops in American cities.
The segue in his speech from one to the other, and back again…. was too clean, too swift, and too intentional.
And then there was Stephen Miller, standing on one end of the line behind Trump.
No. of Recommendations: 3
Trump has declared that he sees the use of American troops in Venezuela in the same way he sees the use of American troops in American cities.
Are we going to blow up the graves of left wing mayors and have Delta Force take the existing ones into custody?
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL.
You can't make this up.
No. of Recommendations: 6
Dope1: But according to you people, the strategy was never to pursue peace (as Trump has).
You really have a knack for getting everything backasswards.
Trumpedo's 'peace plan' to end the war in Ukraine could be summed up in one word: surrender.
Giving Putin everything he asked for in terms of power, territory, and regional control is not a peace plan or the pursuit of a peace plan.
No. of Recommendations: 6
Machado? Nah. Trump said he really hasn’t been talking to the woman who actually defeated Maduro at the polls.
Earlier:
United States President Donald Trump said on Saturday that Venezuelan opposition leader Maria Corina Machado (pictured) does not have the "respect" and "support" necessary to run the country following the capture of President Nicolas Maduro.
… respect and support by the relevant stakeholders, that is.
No. of Recommendations: 9
But according to you people, the strategy was never to pursue peace (as Trump has). It was to wear Putin down. You all RIDICULED anyone pursuing the peace option.
No, Surrender Monkey Dope, you are still a surrender monkey of the Highest Trumpian Order. Still not describing positions properly to goad your opponent, eh surrender monkey?
No. of Recommendations: 2
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Yes, doppel boy. We had a whole 350 post thread on it.
No. of Recommendations: 2
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Yes, doppel boy. We had a whole 350 post thread on it.
No. You are deliberately misstating the thread. Commonone told you right. You were not pursuing peace, you were surrendering, Surrender Monkey Dope.
No. of Recommendations: 3
No.
Yes, doppel boy. You didn't like the other thread because it was a conversation between adults and by definition...that doesn't include you. Either version of you.
No. of Recommendations: 11
"Trump is doing Petro Imperialism the right way!" ~Dopel
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