Halls of Shrewd'm / US Policy
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Iran: "Whatever"
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When you coddle terrorists, this is what you get.
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When you coddle terrorists, this is what you get. - Dope
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Unfortunately, the Biden admin does understand deterrence and is trying to convince Israel that any response should be proportional so as to not further "provoke" the Iranians.
This is the same posture Biden has employed with the Houthis. Two years later and the slow and steady missile attacks by the Houthis have not abated. The Iranians see our tepid response as a sign of weakness. Our other adversaries in the world can see that too.
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Biden said "Don't"
They DID.
Biden and Obama seem to have a red line fetish
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Iran: "Whatever"
Biden: Oh, I’m sorry.
I’ll send you more money so you won’t be mad at me.
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The orange koolaid kult: "When you coddle terrorists, this is what you get. - Dope===============================
The Iranians see our tepid response as a sign of weakness. "
Coddling? LOL. You guys need some fresh material.
The Iranians were so impressed by Cadet Bonespur's strong, non-coddling order to hit Suleimani, they fired a lot of missiles at US bases in Iraq, injuring a lot of USians.
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bighairymike: Iran: "Whatever"
Dope1: When you coddle terrorists, this is what you get.
bighairymike: Unfortunately, the Biden admin does understand deterrence...
LurkerMom: Biden: Oh, I’m sorry.
I’ll send you more money so you won’t be mad at me.
More than 100 US troops suffered traumatic brain injuries in the Iranian missile attack on two bases in Iraq housing US troops on January 8, 2020 and dozens had to be transported to German hospitals and then back to the United States for treatment.
Tell, us, please, what president Trump did in response?
HINT: nothing.
Well, wait. The White House did pressure the Pentagon to hide the injuries.
Meanwhile, in the real world, a week ago president Biden took steps to protect Israel in the event of an Iranian strike, positioning destroyers in the region:
“At my direction, to support the defense of Israel, the U.S. military moved aircraft and ballistic missile defense destroyers to the region over the course of the past week. Thanks to these deployments and the extraordinary skill of our servicemembers, we helped Israel take down nearly all of the incoming drones and missiles.”
Israel thanked president Biden and the United States for the assistance.
President Biden said he will convene with G7 leaders to “coordinate a united diplomatic response” to the attack, in which no Americans or American ships were harmed or in danger.
On Saturday, Trump did talk about how "beautiful" the battle of Gettysburg was and that Robert E Lee is “"no longer in favor. Did you ever notice that?”
So, umm, Trump was sundowning while Biden was making sure Israel was safe.
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I dont celebrate Sulemani.
Wish his talents were directed at Western Europe.
I do have faith that others - are on the job.
Who can blame them.
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Tell, us, please, what president Trump did in response?
HINT: nothing.Fake news.
Unlike Obama who was in the situation room when BinLaden got taken out, and unlike Biden, a killjoy who cut short his weekend and immediately returned to DC,when this incident began, Trump continued golfing at MagaLago with Lindsey Graham on that Jan 3 when the Suleimani strike mission was evolving.
Trump and Graham on the back 9.... stable genius and his sycophant.
https://edition.cnn.com/2020/01/03/politics/lindse...
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More than 100 US troops suffered traumatic brain injuries in the Iranian missile attack on two bases in Iraq housing US troops on January 8, 2020 and dozens had to be transported to German hospitals and then back to the United States for treatment.
Tell, us, please, what president Trump did in response?
HINT: nothing.That is a lie..
SNIP
“Discussing the increased injury toll given late last month, Gen. Mark A. Milley, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, said that TBI often "takes some time to manifest itself."
Milley has also said the military will take good care of the service members who suffered traumatic brain injuries in Iraq, saying they will be monitored for "the rest of their lives" and receive any treatment they need.
According to the Pentagon's breakdown of the 109 military personnel's status. (Some service members are listed in more than one category.)
75 returned to duty after being treated in Iraq
1 returned to duty in Iraq after being treated in Germany
27 were transported from Iraq to U.S. medical facilities in Germany
21 were transported from Germany to the U.S. for treatment
7 are currently en route from Iraq to Germany
5 are still being evaulated.
The Iranian attack targeted at least two Iraqi military bases housing U.S. personnel, including Ain al-Asad. Iran's action was in retaliation for the U.S. drone strike that killed one of its most prominent military commanders, Maj. Gen. Qassem Soleimani.”
https://www.npr.org/2020/02/11/804785515/109-u-s-t...Meanwhile, in the real world, a week ago president Biden took steps to protect Israel in the event of an Iranian strike, positioning destroyers in the region:Meanwhile outside Biden’s fantasy world and back in the real world ChickenBiden turned tail crying said,
SNIP
“Biden warns Netanyahu US will NOT support Israel's counterattack on Iran amid fears of all-out war: President tells PM in late-night call 'you got a win, take the win' after IDF shot down 'nearly all' incoming drones and missiles”
https://nypost.com/2024/04/14/world-news/biden-tel...
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“Biden warns Netanyahu US will NOT support Israel's counterattack on Iran amid fears of all-out war: President tells PM in late-night call 'you got a win, take the win' after IDF shot down 'nearly all' incoming drones and missiles”
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So a few got through. And to Biden, that is a win. Yikes. I hope Biden would take a different stance if the USA was on the receiving end.
With all the deference to Iran and the billions of dollars Biden provided to the Ayotollahs, we could easily refer to Biden as 'Iran's Puppet", or "Khamenei's Pal". Maybe one will catch on.
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The raid was a flop for the Iranians and pretty much demonstrated that as a nation state projecting traditional power…they don’t have any.
The Israelis will send them the FAFO bill soon enough. Meanwhile, Matlock is on, Biden’s going to shuffle off to the tv.
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Both the assassination of Suleimani and the unhinged bombing of an Iranian embassy were unhinged and unnecessary with predictable consequences. We'll be lucky to avoid a wider conflict.
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Dope1:
Meanwhile, Matlock is on, Biden’s going to shuffle off to the tv.In fact, here's what Biden and his administration helped coordinate: Israeli and U.S. forces intercepted most of the Iranian drones and missiles. But they were able to do so in part because Arab countries quietly passed along intelligence about Tehran’s attack plans, opened their airspace to warplanes, shared radar tracking information, or, in some cases, supplied their own forces to help.
As they monitored the results of the air defenses, aided by U.S., British, French and Jordanian forces, it became clear that Israel would emerge relatively unscathed. “When we knew the preparations and planning had succeeded…there was a bit of a relief.”Unlike the blowhard Orange Jesus -- who would have refused American assistance until Israel kissed his fat @ss in public -- Biden actually gets things done.
https://time.com/6966758/how-the-u-s-rallied-to-de...https://www.wsj.com/world/middle-east/how-the-u-s-...
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No. Both were necessary retaliatory measures, especially the whacking of
Soleimani, a terrorist murderer who had the blood of thousands in his hands.
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Hey Dope, How many shares of DJT do you own? TIA
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Unlike the blowhard Orange Jesus -- who would have refused American assistance until Israel kissed his fat @ss in public -- Biden actually gets things done.
Have you forgotten we had peace while Trump was president?
Ya, Trump made a big thing being pals with the worst of the worst, but did you ever think
what Trump said to them behind closed doors that kept them at bay?
Biden got things done all right, one world conflict after another, there is no fear of OldJoe, don’t forget the millions of illegals now in America and good ol’Uncle Joe using tax payers money to coddle and take care of them.
OldJoe is a pathetic excuse as president and especially as commander in chief....
Remember Afghanistan! Joe Biden has blood on his hands.
No. of Recommendations: 8
LurkerMom: Have you forgotten we had peace while Trump was president?
Just yesterday we discussed the 100 US troops who suffered traumatic brain injuries in the Iranian missile attack on two bases housing US troops on January 8, 2020.
We also discussed Trump pressuring the Afghan government to release 5,000 Taliban fighters from prison, including senior war commanders, now active in the region.
And for that matter, we've also discussed North Korea test launching a new solid-fueled medium-range ballistic missile, the Pukguksong-2 (or KN-15) while Trump and Japanese Prime Minister Abe were holding their first summit at Mar-a-Lago.
Trump did nothing.
And speaking of "blood on his hands," what did you think about Trump telling the widow of Army Sgt. La David Johnson, one of the soldiers killed in Niger on Trump's watch, that he "knew what he was getting into"?
Johnson's mother summed up the conservation Trump had with the family pretty well: "President Trump did disrespect my son and my daughter and also me and my husband."
You're in a cult.
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LurkerMom: Have you forgotten we had peace while Trump was president?
Then only kind of 'peace' Trump will give us is the kind you get from giving away everything to our enemies.
He was worthless as POTUS and an abject failure as CnC.
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Just yesterday we discussed the 100 US troops who suffered traumatic brain injuries in the Iranian missile attack on two bases housing US troops on January 8, 2020.And I gave you a detailed account of how the Pentagon was/is taking care of the soldiers affected. No soldiers were killed.
Iran had retaliated for Trump’s ordering the killing of Gen Soleimani, who like Biden has blood on his hands for the killing of many US soldiers.
We also discussed Trump pressuring the Afghan government to release 5,000 Taliban fighters from prison, including senior war commanders, now active in the region.It was a part of the peace deal, no direct fault of Trump.
“Taliban prisoners released by the Afghan government as part of a deal brokered by the United States aimed at ending almost 20 years of war are returning to the battlefield as commanders and fighters, in direct contravention of pledges made by the insurgents to the White House.”
https://foreignpolicy.com/2020/09/03/defying-peace...And for that matter, we've also discussed North Korea test launching a new solid-fueled medium-range ballistic missile, the Pukguksong-2 (or KN-15) while Trump and Japanese Prime Minister Abe were holding their first summit at Mar-a-Lago.SNIP
“Before and after Trump's election and inauguration, North Korea was conducting a flurry of nuclear and missile tests.
The drumbeat reached a peak in 2017, when Kim Jong Un's regime launched its first intercontinental ballistic missiles — theoretically capable of striking the United States mainland. It also tested its most powerful nuclear weapon to date, which it claimed was a miniaturized hydrogen bomb.
Verbal sparring between Trump and Kim escalated and appeared to elevate the threat of a devastating war.
Trump on North Korea: Rockets 'no longer flying in every direction'
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Then it all stopped. North Korea conducted its last nuclear test in September 2017 and its last missile launch a month later. Trump has gone from ridiculing Kim as "little rocket man" and laughing to saying he "fell in love" with the young dictator.”
Yep, and then they STOP! Wonder what Trump whispered in the little rocket mans ear.
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/north-korea-lau...And speaking of "blood on his hands," what did you think about Trump telling the widow of Army Sgt. La David Johnson, one of the soldiers killed in Niger on Trump's watch, that he "knew what he was getting into"?Blunt speech from Trump, it is what it is. On the other hand we have Biden checking his watch every few seconds when the caskets were unloaded at Dover
“ However, Biden did check his watch at least three times, according to photos and video reviewed by USA TODAY. Several family members of fallen service members who attended the ceremony have criticized Biden for checking his watch.”
You’re in a cultShrug...Better than being a groveler for Senile Biden.
Remember Afghanistan! Biden has blood on his hand.
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LurkerMom: ...Biden has blood on his hands for the killing of many US soldiers.
Dear Cultist,
Some 65 American service members died in combat while serving Trump during his time in the White House office from January 2017 to January 2021. There were fatalities every year of his presidency. And you conveniently keep ignoring the soldiers killed in Niger.
LurkerMom: Yep, and then they STOP!
Umm, no. They did not stop.
North Korea test launched KN-23 missiles on May 4, 2019...
...short-range ballistic missiles on May 9, 2019...
...a new design of short-range ballistic missiles on July 25, 2019...
...several short-range ballistic missiles on August 2, 2019...
...more short-range ballistic missiles on August 24, 2019...
...again on September 10, 2019...
...test-fired a new-type submarine-launched ballistic missile on October 2, 2019...
...and more on October 31, 2019...
...and again on November 28, 2019...
...and again on March 2, 2020.
LurkerMom: ...we have Biden checking his watch every few seconds...
Tell me, did he call them "suckers" and "losers"?
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Some 65 American service members died in combat while serving Trump during his time in the White House office from January 2017 to January 2021. There were fatalities every year of his presidency. And you conveniently keep ignoring the soldiers killed in Niger.
Well praise the Lord there were only 65 soldiers who died in combat under Trump.
Under Obama some 2,500 American soldiers died in Afghanistan and Iraq.
Obama set forth his ‘Rules Of Engagement’ know as ROE. Soldiers were fighting with their hands tied behind their backs. Remember when Gen. Stanley McChrystal had to resign because it was discovered he laughed how Obama was running the war? Other generals resigned or were fired also.
When Trump became President one of the first things he did was to throw out Obama’s ROE’s and let his Generals run the war.
Carry on commonone, I’m having fun laughing at your groveling and water carrying for OldJoe.
Remember Afghanistan..Biden has blood on his hands.
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The world was at relative levels of peace when Trump was in office. Fact.
The world is a far more dangerous place today with Biden in office. Fact.
Biden was a weak man before he went senile. If libs on this board want to pretend he still has all his faculties, I’ve always said that liberals lie to themselves before they lie to everyone else.
