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Author: LurkerMom   😊 😞
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Subject: More Points To Pounder PRETTI’S PISTOL
Date: 01/28/26 5:55 PM
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I know nothing about guns and weapons but this article raises a lot of questions.

Introduction

“STEPHEN HUNTER: PRETTI’S PISTOL
Our friend Stephen Hunter is the author of 20 novels, including the Bob Lee Swagger series, and is the retired chief film critic for the Washington Post, where he won the 2003 Pulitzer Prize for Distinguished Criticism. His most recent novel is Gun Man Jackson Swagger. Late last night Steve wrote us that “this Alex Pretti thing has me all buzzed up. It’s SO familiar–the ‘victim’ instigated the event; the federal agents had about two seconds to respond; the backlash was immediate and well-planned; the media compliant as rent boys.” Steve sees the case as “the tragic but blameless police shooting of a dim liberal-dogooder driven by self-righteous vanity.” He notes, however, that “something has yet to be mentioned, and I think it must be.” He writes:

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“The killing of Alex Pretti has excited the media in powerful ways until they’ve slathered the truth under a smear of white goo. But these folks are so brilliant it’s all but astonishing that they’ve failed to note one thing.

While Alex Pretti may or may not have been the secular saint he is depicted to have been, he went into action not equipped to save lives but to do battle. Was he going into combat against the Waffen-SS or perhaps joining up with Chris Kyle? Whatever, he was fully massacre-equipped.

I’ll skip the choice of weapon—large state-of-the-art 9 mm service pistol, with double stacked magazine—and I’ll pass on the presence of at least two of those hi-cap magazines in gun with spare in pocket.

Instead let’s look at something unnoticed aboard the Sig P320 AXG “Combat,” as the factory called it. What’s that odd cube atop the slide? It’s a battery-driven red dot optical sight, and although its presence doesn’t mandate massacre—I have several on my guns and only massacre paper—it is at least highly provocative.

If the man had carried a Sig P365, the current hot lick in self-defense, it would be hard to argue that mayhem was his goal. That one is too small, too hard to shoot accurately, and its size means it recoils excessively. Had he a .38 snub nose, even a run-of-the-mill Colt Commander, they too put him out of the game. They all make sense for self-defense but nothing more dramatic.

He had, instead, the maximum professional killing machine, its potency amplified by the optical device. In that 2-ounce, 2”x2” cube atop the slide is a laser which projects a small but brilliant red dot onto the lens. Adjusted correctly, the point of impact indexes to the red dot. Peer through the lens, put the dot where you want and you’re John Wick. No wonder they’re ubiquitous in the infantry and marines, in police holsters, on shooting ranges.

So equipped, a man could take out an enemy squad, drop a hostage-taker or put 17 holes in a 4-inch circle at 25 yards. A man could also sweep a crowd of targets, press the trigger whenever the red dot passed over one, and in less than 10 seconds deliver 17 fatalities. For RN Alex Pretti, it suggests a whole galaxy of questions that must be answered before anyone knows anything.”

https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2026/01/ste...




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Author: jerryab   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: More Points To Pounder PRETTI’S PISTOL
Date: 01/28/26 6:29 PM
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So equipped, a man could take out an enemy squad, drop a hostage-taker or put 17 holes in a 4-inch circle at 25 yards. A man could also sweep a crowd of targets, press the trigger whenever the red dot passed over one, and in less than 10 seconds deliver 17 fatalities. For RN Alex Pretti, it suggests a whole galaxy of questions that must be answered before anyone knows anything.”

Here is where Stephen Hunter (and the RWNJs) lose their shit:

If the idea was to KILL,

then Alex would have BEEN SHOOTING FROM OUTSIDE THE AREA WHERE ICE WAS LOCATED.

Why? The gun sight--specifically identified mentioned above--allowed individuals to be rapidly identified AND targeted. Shooting EACH SPECIFIC TARGET would mean being able to HIT ICE AND NOT SHOOT OTHER NON-DESIRED POTENTIAL TARGETS.

Thus, Hunter's identification of the gun sight PROVES BEYOND A SHADOW OF A DOUBT that Alex Pretti was *intending* to shoot/kill anyone. Can't argue self-defense because there was NO drawing of the weapon or other preparation to use it. RATIONAL attack on ICE would be to do so from OUTSIDE, not INSIDE, the ICE group. Alex was rational (nurse's JOB), so Hunter has unwittingly cleared Alex of any intent to attack ICE using Alex's carried weapon.

Alex Pretti has been cleared by Stephen Hunter's analysis (which Hunter did not initially comprehend) of any attack on ICE. Thus, the murder/execution of Alex Pretti can proceed at both the state and federal levels. Expectation is Spankee will be "fast and furious" to pardon ALL ICE/CBP involved--but ONLY for the federal crimes. He lacks the authority to pardon state/local crimes. Prosecution of the state/local crimes should proceed after the federal govt has turned over ALL the evidence to the state/local police. If the federal govt "lost, can't find, disposed, etc" of that evidence, then there is no evidence CLEARING the ICE/CBP killing of Pretti and their trials may begin as soon as the prosecutors are willing to begin. The ICE/CBP officers involved shall NOT be allowed to leave the US or be in any location where they can ESCAPE JUSTICE WITHOUT MN STATE + LOCAL TRIALS.

https://www.archives.gov/founding-docs/constitutio...

Article IV, Section 2, Second Paragraph:

A Person charged in any State with Treason, Felony, or other Crime, who shall flee from Justice, and be found in another State, shall on Demand of the executive Authority of the State from which he fled, be delivered up, to be removed to the State having Jurisdiction of the Crime.
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Subject: Re: More Points To Pounder PRETTI’S PISTOL
Date: 01/28/26 6:43 PM
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And of course, he could do all that massacring after being pepper sprayed in the face, knocked to the ground face down, four people on top of him, and that incredibly lethal gun yanked away from his holster. We'll never get to ask him what his intent was with that gun, because he was murdered before we could.

Just answer me this. What was Kyle Rittenhouse doing with a lethal weapon in the same city five years ago? Why is he a hero for actually using it to murder people?
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Author: jerryab   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: More Points To Pounder PRETTI’S PISTOL
Date: 01/28/26 6:48 PM
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Thus, Hunter's identification of the gun sight PROVES BEYOND A SHADOW OF A DOUBT that Alex Pretti was NOT *intending* to shoot/kill anyone. Can't argue self-defense because there was NO drawing of the weapon or other preparation to use it. RATIONAL attack on ICE would be to do so from OUTSIDE, not INSIDE, the ICE group. Alex was rational (nurse's JOB), so Hunter has unwittingly cleared Alex of any intent to attack ICE using Alex's carried weapon.

Added the word NOT above (from previous quoted paragraph) as computer tends to delete stuff without being told to do so.
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Author: ptheland 🐝  😊 😞
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Subject: Re: More Points To Pounder PRETTI’S PISTOL
Date: 01/28/26 6:53 PM
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I’ll skip the choice of weapon—large state-of-the-art 9 mm service pistol, with double stacked magazine—and I’ll pass on the presence of at least two of those hi-cap magazines in gun with spare in pocket.

Instead let’s look at something unnoticed aboard the Sig P320 AXG “Combat,” as the factory called it. What’s that odd cube atop the slide? It’s a battery-driven red dot optical sight, and although its presence doesn’t mandate massacre ...


For the sake of argument, I'll grant all of those as true.

So tell me, how does Pretti get 17 laser aimed shots off in 10 seconds after the Brown Shirt took the gun away from him? Because he was disarmed before he was executed.

--Peter

PS - If I were one of the officers holding Pretti down, I'd be pretty darn mad at the guys who started shooting. Those rounds were fired in very close proximity to the other officers. They're lucky none of them got hit.
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Author: LurkerMom   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: More Points To Pounder PRETTI’S PISTOL
Date: 01/28/26 7:32 PM
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So tell me, how does Pretti get 17 laser aimed shots off in 10 seconds after the Brown Shirt took the gun away from him? Because he was disarmed before he was executed.

I said at the start I have no knowledge of guns and weapons.
I made no comment on the article, but thought it might be of
some interest to the Board to discuss.
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Author: jerryab   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: More Points To Pounder PRETTI’S PISTOL
Date: 01/28/26 8:12 PM
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I said at the start I have no knowledge of guns and weapons.
I made no comment on the article, but thought it might be of
some interest to the Board to discuss.


Stephen Hunter's analysis documents Alex Pretti did not plan or consider any attack.

Then again, that is a FACT based on Hunter's statements. ARE THEY FACTS? Or LIES?

Good luck with THAT one.
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Author: ptheland 🐝  😊 😞
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Subject: Re: More Points To Pounder PRETTI’S PISTOL
Date: 01/28/26 8:32 PM
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ARE THEY FACTS? Or LIES?

They are neither. They are one man's opinion.

Facts would be things like the make and model of Pretti's gun. The types of modifications to it. Where he was carrying it. Whether he removed it from its holster or other carrying place.

Based on the facts that Hunter considered, it is his OPINION that Pretti wasn't there for an attack on officers.

--Peter
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Author: marco100   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: More Points To Pounder PRETTI’S PISTOL
Date: 01/29/26 2:41 AM
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Elann,

Why do you have a bug up your ass about Kyle Rittenhouse? He didn't interfere with the police or anyone else. He didn't riot or protest or anything.

Three or four (or perhaps more) assholes of the leftish variety--you know, people exactly like Nurse Pretti, and YOURSELF,--attacking him with dangerous weapons and got shot.

Kyle didn't attack anyone, you stupid asshole. He was attacked.
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Author: bighairymike   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: More Points To Pounder PRETTI’S PISTOL
Date: 01/29/26 8:33 PM
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What was Kyle Rittenhouse doing with a lethal weapon in the same city five years ago? Why is he a hero for actually using it to murder people? - elan

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He was tried and found not guilty. There was no murder. His reason for the weapon is well documented. He would be dead at the hands of the rioters had he not been armed.

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Author: marco100   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: More Points To Pounder PRETTI’S PISTOL
Date: 01/29/26 9:07 PM
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Bighairymike,

You are arguing with someone who reasons as follows:

"Hitler liked to eat fried chicken. Therefore if you go to KFC you are a Nazi."



To wit:

Rittenhouse had a gun with him and shot people. Right wingers thought that was O.K. for the most part.

Pretti had a gun with him. Therefore, right wingers should be OK with it too.

Can't you SEE???? They both had a GUN. Therefore, BOTH SITuAtionS are Xactly the SAmeeeeee.

Just like Hitler eating fried chicken and YOU eating fried chicken, IT MEANS YOU ARE EXACTLY THE SAME as HITLER.

These fucking leftists are positively mentally ill.
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Author: sano 🐝  😊 😞
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Subject: Re: More Points To Pounder PRETTI’S PISTOL
Date: 01/30/26 9:23 AM
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<Rittenhouse> would be dead at the hands of the rioters had he not been armed.

Why would he be dead? The protesters didn't kill anybody.

If Ritttenhouse had not been armed he would have just been one more face in public, of no importance to anybody.



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Author: Lambo 🐝  😊 😞
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Subject: Re: More Points To Pounder PRETTI’S PISTOL
Date: 01/30/26 10:13 AM
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Instead let’s look at something unnoticed aboard the Sig P320 AXG “Combat,” as the factory called it. What’s that odd cube atop the slide? It’s a battery-driven red dot optical sight, and although its presence doesn’t mandate massacre—I have several on my guns and only massacre paper—it is at least highly provocative.

The P320 has a bad reputation, is known to have negligent discharges and some LE have been given the P320, but it's not advised. This means Pettri probably bought it years ago. It was a normal favorite of the self defense CCW boys, so having it doesn't mean anything, although you can insinuate as the author does that whoever carries it is looking for trouble. Nothing provocative about the red dot light. It's normal to carry extra mags, and that's more for malfunctions than firepower. LM just wants to stir up the forum. The OC spray did its job and incapacitated him so MAGA ICE could shoot him in the back and LM can cheer them on.

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Author: marco100   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: More Points To Pounder PRETTI’S PISTOL
Date: 01/30/26 12:08 PM
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Insanity-O,

Why don't you hit yourself in the head as hard as you can with a skateboard, like the "protestors' were trying to do to Rittenhouse, and see if it improves your I.Q.
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