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https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/supreme-co...TThe Supreme Court on Thursday put back into effect an Arizona law requiring those registering to vote to provide documentary proof of citizenship, but not for voting for president or for voting by mail.
The decision marks a partial win for the Republican National Committee's bid to halt a lower court ruling that would have forced Arizona to allow people to register to vote without having to show proof of citizenship.Not sure this ruling makes much sense.
The actual order:
https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/25057200-s...(ORDER LIST: 603 U.S.) THURSDAY, AUGUST 22, 2024 ORDER IN PENDING CASE 24A164 REPUBLICAN NAT. COMM., ET AL. V. MI FAMILIA VOTA, ET AL.
The application for stay presented to Justice Kagan and by her referred to the Court is granted in part and denied in part. The district court’s May 2, 2024 judgment is stayed only to the extent it enjoins enforcement of Ariz. Rev. Stat. Ann. § 16-121.01(C) (2023) pending disposition of the appeals in the United States Court of Appeals for the Ninth Circuit and disposition of a petition for a writ of certiorari, if any such writ is timely sought.
Should certiorari be denied, this stay shall terminate automatically. In the event certiorari is granted, the stay shall terminate upon the sending down of the judgment of this Court. The application is denied as to Ariz. Rev. Stat. Ann. §§ 16-121.01(E) and 16-127(A). Justice Thomas, Justice Alito, and Justice Gorsuch would grant the application in full. Justice Sotomayor, Justice Kagan, Justice Barrett, and Justice Jackson would deny the application in full.In this case CNN did a reasonable job of explaining it:
https://www.cnn.com/2024/08/22/politics/supreme-co...The Supreme Court left in place a lower court’s ruling that barred enforcement of the law that required voters to document their US citizenship to vote in this year’s presidential election, but it allowed the state to enforce a requirement that would-be voters document their citizenship before registering to vote in state and local elections.I'm not sure this is really a distinction with a difference...so you can be an illegal, roll into a voter registration agency and register, but only for federal elections?
https://azsos.gov/elections/votersA person who submits valid proof of citizenship with their voter registration form (and is otherwise an eligible registrant) is entitled to vote in all federal, state, and local elections in which they are eligible. A.R.S. § 16-101.
A registrant who attests to being a citizen but fails to provide proof of citizenship and whose citizenship is not otherwise verified will be eligible to vote only in federal elections (known as being a "federal only" voter).
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I'm not sure this is really a distinction with a difference...so you can be an illegal, roll into a voter registration agency and register, but only for federal elections?
No. If you're not a legal citizen, you're not allow to register for or vote in federal elections.
Arizona back in the day tried to add a requirement to the process of registering that you had to provide documentation proving your citizenship at the time of registration in order to register. The Courts struck that down. There exists a federal statute that outlines what documentation you have to provide in order to register to vote, and the Courts held that Arizona couldn't add to required documents. It was pre-empted by federal law.
So Arizona tried to work around that, by adopting dual classifications of registration. They argued that the federal statute only applied to federal elections, and that AZ was free to adopt more stringent documentary requirements for state-only elections. They have also adopted legislation that tried to use some legal legerdemain to get around the federal registration statute and prevent people who didn't independently get their citizenship checked from voting by mail or voting in the Presidential elections.
The dual state-only election citizenship test was permitted by the Court to go into effect pending the litigation. The rest was not.
No. of Recommendations: 2
No. If you're not a legal citizen, you're not allow to register for or vote in federal elections.
You're also not supposed to be in the country illegally, either...
No. of Recommendations: 5
You're also not supposed to be in the country illegally, either...
True. The issue here isn't whether you're allowed to register to vote if you're not a citizen (you're not), but whether the state can require submittal of documentation of citizenship as part of the registration process. They cannot, for federal elections.
They might be able to, for state elections.
Thus, the split ruling.
