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No, whoever threw rocks at Ruby Bridges in 1960 were most likely Southern Democrats.
That's not "all white people every where" despite what you Leftist, racist propagandists want to claim.
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No, whoever threw rocks at Ruby Bridges in 1960 were most likely Southern Democrats.
This is true. Southern DINOs would not go near the GOP, because of Lincoln and the "war of northern aggression". Saint Reagan turned them to the GOP with racist dog whistles.
Steve
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That's not "all white people every where" despite what you Leftist, racist propagandists want to claim.
Marco whirls his scimitar at yet another strawman of his own creation.
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This is true. Southern DINOs would not go near the GOP, because of Lincoln and the "war of northern aggression". Saint Reagan turned them to the GOP with racist dog whistles.
Nixon started turning Southern Democrats to the GOP in the late 60s/early 70s with his Southern Strategy. Reagan merely finished the job.
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Saint Reagan turned them to the GOP with racist dog whistles.
Who could ever forget Ronnie’s “welfare queen”, and later Reagan’s own VP riding into the White House on the back of Willie Horton.
Later, we say popularization of Barack, the Magic Negro and Kamala, the stupid DEI hire who whored her way into political power.
A long and storied history of racist propaganda, which the right refuses to acknowledge.
Even as they accuse us of racism when we remind them.
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This is true. Southern DINOs would not go near the GOP, because of Lincoln and the "war of northern aggression". Saint Reagan turned them to the GOP with racist dog whistles.
Steve It was actually Nixon with the Southern Strategy that began the migration of the Southern racists to the GOP.
"In American politics,
the Southern strategy was a Republican Party electoral strategy to increase political support among white voters in the South by appealing to racism against African Americans.[a] As the civil rights movement and dismantling of Jim Crow laws in the 1950s and 1960s visibly deepened existing racial tensions in much of the Southern United States, Republican politicians such as presidential candidates
Richard Nixon and Barry Goldwater developed strategies that successfully contributed to the political realignment of many white, conservative voters in the South who had traditionally supported the Democratic Party so consistently that the voting pattern was named the Solid South. The strategy also helped to push the Republican Party much more to the right.[7] By winning all of the South, a presidential candidate could obtain the presidency with minimal support elsewhere.[8][9]
The phrase "Southern strategy" refers primarily to "top down" narratives of the political realignment of the South which suggest that
Republican leaders consciously appealed to many white Southerners' racial grievances to gain their support.[10] This top-down narrative of the Southern Strategy is generally believed to be the primary force that transformed Southern politics following the civil rights era. The scholarly consensus is that racial conservatism was critical in the post–Civil Rights Act realignment of the Republican and Democratic parties,[11][12] though several aspects of this view have been debated by historians and political scientists.[13][14][15][16][17]
The perception that
the Republican Party had served as the "vehicle of white supremacy in the South", particularly during the Goldwater campaign and the presidential elections of 1968 and 1972, made it difficult for the Republican Party to win back the support of black voters in the South in later years.[7] In 2005, Republican National Committee chairman Ken Mehlman formally apologized to the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People (NAACP) for exploiting racial polarization to win elections and for ignoring the black vote.[18][19]"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southern_strategy
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“Southern Strategy”: basically denied by today’s MAGA-fied Republican Party.
You can offer the overwhelming proof- the words of Lee Atwater who helped originate the strategy, the Strom Thurmonds who transitioned from racist Democrats to racist Republicans, even the maps that clearly show the transition taking place over the course of a few short decades, even the basic agenda and philosophical underpinnings of the old Confederacy taking root and flourishing in the Republican Party
No matter… it’s all a left wing fever dream and you are a raaaacist for even mentioning the Southern Strategy.
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Remarkably, conservative unity endures—fueled not by principles but by hatred....
Whether invoking the ghosts of yesterday’s conservatives, those who birthed the KKK, defended slavery, enforced Jim Crow, engineered the Southern Strategy, and devised ever more creative ways to suppress the vote or examining today’s iteration, which pledges blind loyalty to a man endorsed twice by former KKK leader David Duke and the *Crusader*, the official newspaper of the Klan, the lineage remains unmistakable.
The conservative movement, past and present, has always found its lifeblood in hate.
Latest example:
Trump has commissioned the installation of a new statue in Washington—honoring Albert Pike, a Confederate general, defender of slavery, and early figure in the Ku Klux Klan...
"The white race, and that race alone, shall govern this country. It is the only one that is fit to govern, and it is the only one that shall." ~Albert Pike
In 1905's book Ku Klux Klan: Its Origin, Growth and Disbandment, the author Walter L. Fleming, lists Pike as the Klan's "chief judicial officer."
A MAGA hero!
https://apnews.com/article/confederate-statue-remo...
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LOL. libruls and their urban legends.
Too bad none of them ever bothered to read more of the Atwater transcripts. All they do is resurgence the cherry picked parts that support their lying narrative.
so what you had was two things happening that totally washed away the Southern Strategy, the Harry Dent-type southern strategy. And that is…That whole strategy was based - although it was more sophisticated than a Bilbo or a George Wallace - it was nevertheless based on coded racism. The whole thing. Busing. We want a supreme court judge that will not bus. Anything you'd look at could be traced back to the race issue and the old Southern strategy. And it was not done in a blatantly discriminatory way. But the Reagans did not have to do a Southern strategy for two reasons: Number one, race was not a dominant issue. And number two, the mainstream issues in this campaign had been “Southern issues” since way back in the 60s. So Reagan goes out and campaigns on the economics and on national defense, the whole campaign was devoid of any kind of racism, any kind of reference.
Because Lee Atwater would totally go out to a lib reporter and just bare his evil raaaacist soul.
Hint: yeah, no.
liberals can only process brain food in the smallest chunks.
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"The people who threw rocks at Ruby Bridges for trying to go to school in 1960 now are upset their grandchildren might learn about them throwing rocks at Ruby Bridges for trying to go to school."Yup, the "great" red state of Louisiana...
As a slave state, Louisiana was one of the original seven members of the Confederate States of America during the American Civil War.
Louisiana consistently votes Republican in presidential elections, including strong support for Donald Trump in 2024 with 60.2% of the vote.
Louisiana was ranked the least healthy state in the country, with high levels of drug-related deaths.
Louisiana frequently ranks low among U.S. states in terms of health, education, and development with high rates of poverty and homicide. Classic MAGA.
"Smart people don't like me!" ~Trump The Pedo
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louisiana#References
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Actually, the Southerners became Democrats after the Civil War because an honest Republican (in today’s Republican Party, that’s called an oxymoron) released a an executive order* called the Emancipation Proclamation, which freed all slaves in Confederate held territory. All slaves were freed when the 13th Amendment was passed in 1865.
You couldn’t find a Republican in the south if you looked with a microscope for almost 100 years. Those white southern bigoted racists (a name I got from the Department of Redundancy Department) had long memories and deep grudges.
Then, in the1960’s a crazy (but effective) Democratic from Texas (who liked to pull up his dogs by their ears) pushed 2 bills through Congress - the Civil Rights Act and the Voting Rights Act.
Then, Lordy Lordy!!! It was a miracle! All those Democrat white southern bigoted racists became Republican white southern bigoted racists overnight. The only thing that changed was the name that the white southern bigoted racists called themselves. They always were, and continue to be, white southern bigoted racists.
Very consistent folks. Dead wrong, but consistent. Kind of like our MAGA posters here.
* Few Americans remember that Lincoln’s first Executive Order was to rename the Washington Monument the Lincoln-Washington Monument.
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How come my free NYC bus fare just went up to $3.00???
Oh yeah, "Jews!!!"
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so what you had was two things happening that totally washed away the Southern Strategy, the Harry Dent-type southern strategy. And that is…That whole strategy was based - although it was more sophisticated than a Bilbo or a George Wallace - it was nevertheless based on coded racism. The whole thing. Busing. We want a supreme court judge that will not bus. Anything you'd look at could be traced back to the race issue and the old Southern strategy. And it was not done in a blatantly discriminatory way. But the Reagans did not have to do a Southern strategy for two reasons: Number one, race was not a dominant issue. And number two, the mainstream issues in this campaign had been “Southern issues” since way back in the 60s. So Reagan goes out and campaigns on the economics and on national defense, the whole campaign was devoid of any kind of racism, any kind of reference.
Because Lee Atwater would totally go out to a lib reporter and just bare his evil raaaacist soul.
Actually, he did exactly that, but you make one HUGE MONGOLOUSELY mistake, you assume Lee Atwater is racist. He's a strategist. If you follow your own paragraph above, they are getting "abstract" with busing, and so by Reagan, it's very anstract. "Ronald Reagan launched his 1980 presidential general election campaign at the Neshoba County Fair in Philadelphia, Mississippi. The choice of location and his speech, which emphasized "states' rights," have been widely interpreted as a tacit appeal to Southern white voters who were part of the "Southern Strategy" of the Republican party.
The location was particularly significant and controversial because Philadelphia, Mississippi, was the site where three civil rights workers—James Chaney, Andrew Goodman, and Michael Schwerner—were murdered by local Ku Klux Klan members in 1964.
In his speech at the fair, Reagan stated: "I believe in states' rights; I believe in people doing as much as they can for themselves at the community level and at the private level. And I believe that we've distorted the balance of our government today by giving powers that were never intended in the constitution to that federal establishment".
Critics at the time and historians since have pointed out that "states' rights" was a well-known code phrase (or "dog whistle") for opposition to federal civil rights legislation and racial integration. While some commentators have argued that the intention was simply to appeal to rural Southern voters generally, many observers familiar with the context understood the message as a nod to racial bias.
Oct 10, 2024 — Richard Nixon used phrases like “silent majority,” “states' rights,” and “law and order” to deliver this racially infu...
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"And Atwater wasn’t done yet. A few years later, he worked on the campaign of the first George Bush, and was quite successful in rousing up the racist base with the infamous Willie Horton ad — which may have been responsible for completely turning the election around in favor of his candidate.
In 2005, Republican National Committee Chairman Ken Mehlman even apologized to the NAACP for his party’s history of exploiting the Southern Strategy — a history that was not yet over, and indeed is still not today."
We know y'all are totally invested in lying about your racism, and are so invested you can't ever admit to it. We never expect an honest conversation in this area from you, and you exceed our expectations famously.
My favorite Lee Atwater quote:
"You start out in 1954 by saying, “Nigger, nigger, nigger.” By 1968 you can’t say “nigger”—that hurts you, backfires. So you say stuff like, uh, forced busing, states’ rights, and all that stuff, and you’re getting so abstract. Now, you’re talking about cutting taxes, and all these things you’re talking about are totally economic things and a byproduct of them is, blacks get hurt worse than whites.… “We want to cut this,” is much more abstract than even the busing thing, uh, and a hell of a lot more abstract than “Nigger, nigger.”" Lee Atwater - 1981
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* Few Americans remember that Lincoln’s first Executive Order was to rename the Washington Monument the Lincoln-Washington Monument.SNIP
“ABRAHAM LINCOLN
16th President of the United States: 1861 ‐ 1865
First Executive Order—General War Order No. 1
January 27, 1862
Ordered, That the 22d day of February, 1862, be the day for a general movement of the land and naval forces of the United States against the insurgent forces; that especially the army at and about Fortress Monroe. the Army of the Potomac, the Army of Western Virginia, the army near Munfordville, Ky., the army and flotilla at Cairo, and a naval force in the Gulf of Mexico be ready to move on that day.
That all other forces, both land and naval, with their respective commanders, obey existing orders for the time and be ready to obey additional orders when duly given.”
https://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/documents/executiv...SNIP
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That claim is false; President Abraham Lincoln never issued an executive order to rename the Washington Monument the "Lincoln-Washington Monument". The Washington Monument honors George Washington, the first U.S. President, and the Lincoln Memorial honors Abraham Lincoln, but they are distinct structures, and Lincoln did not rename Washington's memorial, as the Lincoln Memorial was built much later.”
SNIP
“The Lincoln Memorial is a U.S. national memorial honoring Abraham Lincoln, the 16th president of the United States, located on the western end of the National Mall of Washington, D.C. The memorial is built in a neoclassical style in the form of a classical temple. The memorial's architect was Henry Bacon. In 1920, Daniel Chester French designed the large interior Abraham Lincoln statue, which was carved in marble by the Piccirilli brothers.[4] Jules Guérin painted the interior murals, and the epitaph above the statue was written by Royal Cortissoz. Dedicated on May 30, 1922.”
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lincoln_Memorial#SNIP
“The Washington Monument was completed in 1884, 101 years after Congress authorized it. It rises in a straight line between the Capitol and the Lincoln Memorial, but is off-center between the White House and the Jefferson Memorial because the original site was too marshy for its bulk. Private funding ran out in the 1850s, when only the stump of the obelisk had been erected. Building resumed in 1876, producing a slight change in the color of the marble about a third of the way up. The 555ft monument—the tallest free-standing masonry structure in the world—was capped with solid aluminium, then a rare material.”
https://www.timeout.com/washington-dc/attractions/...My New Year’s resolution was take you out of the time out box..my mistake.
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LurkerMom,
The only kind of "box" that gent belongs in is a litter box.
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* Few Americans remember that Lincoln’s first Executive Order was to rename the Washington Monument the Lincoln-Washington Monument.
SNIP
“That claim is false; President Abraham Lincoln never issued an executive order to rename the Washington Monument the "Lincoln-Washington Monument". The Washington Monument honors George Washington, the first U.S. President, and the Lincoln Memorial honors Abraham Lincoln, but they are distinct structures, and Lincoln did not rename Washington's memorial, as the Lincoln Memorial was built much later.”
I can't believe you fell for that. :) Thanks. Made my day. Have a great year LM.
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I can't believe you fell for that. :) Thanks. Made my day. Have a great year LM.
Lambo, Your split personality buddy Lapsody whispered you the wrong information
confusing you. You need a psychiatrist.
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OMG!
My bad. I forgot to put the <joke> </joke> parameters around the Lincoln first EO. I thought it was pretty clear that I was mocking Trump’s renaming of the John F. Kennedy Center for Performing Arts. Sigh.
Just for the record, Lincoln is my favorite president (by far) and I’ve read over 40 books about him, my favorite being Team of Rivals by Doris Kearns Goodwin. Lincoln had a wicked sense of humor and I think he would have laughed at my joke. And, he would have never done something that stupid.
The following two bits of useless trivia about Lincoln that are 100% accurate:
Maybe 10 years ago, Doris Kearns Goodwin gave a speech at a local university as well as a breakfast with book signing. My friends, who know I am a Lincolnholic, got me tickets to both events. When I handed her my copy of TOR to sign, I mentioned that I thought her book was the best book about Lincoln that I’ve read. Her response; “Of all the presidents I’ve lived with, he was my favorite.”
Spielberg’s movie Lincoln was based on TOR. The movie had some inaccuracies, but was good. But based on descriptions I’ve read about Lincoln’s physical characteristics, Daniel Day-Lewis just slammed it out of the park. It felt like I was actually watching Lincoln. Anyway, in the movie there is a scene of Lincoln sitting at his desk just thinking, the only sound being the ticking of his pocket watch. Spielberg actually talked the Smithsonian into winding Lincoln’s original pocket watch a bit so he could record the actual, authentic sound of Abraham Lincoln's personal pocket watch, recorded by Oscar-winning sound designer Ben Burtt.
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have been widely interpreted as a tacit appeal to Southern white voters who were part of the "Southern Strategy" of the Republican party.
Failure
Atwater knew he was already getting those votes if he appealed to national security and the economy. It’s liberal wishful thinking to keep repeating same quote from Atwater over and over and over again.
All you gotta do to keep the South is for Reagan to run in place on the issues his campaigned on since 1964. And that's fiscal conservatism, balancing the budget, cutting taxes, you know that whole cluster, and being tough with national defense. And it's going to be very hard for Reagan to lose.
Indeed, Lee. liberals haven’t been for national security since LBJ. It’s just not a thing for the left.
Your “favorite” (golly gee, wonder why since it feeds your prejudices) left out what Lee says next:
And subconsciously maybe that *is* part of it. I'm not saying that, but I'm saying that if it is getting that abstract and that coded, that we're doing away with the racial problem one way or the other.
Oopsie! And let’s continue:
Do you follow me?
Because obviously sitting around saying, 'we want to cut taxes, we want to cut this,' is much more abstract than even the busing thing, and a hell of lot more abstract than, 'nigger, nigger.'
So anyway you look at it, race is coming on the back burner.
Atwater’s playing Devil’s Advocate here, but that doesn’t play to the left wing narrative, which must be that the Republican Party is little more than the modern Klan. Never mind the raw cultural incompatibilities that liberal political thought has with oh, 75% of actual Americans that really drive elections. Quaint things like a strong economy and good foreign policy.
Stuff the democrats left behind decades ago and show no sign of returning to any time soon.
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OMG!
My bad. I forgot to put the <joke> </joke> parameters around the Lincoln first EO. I thought it was pretty clear that I was mocking Trump’s renaming of the John F. Kennedy Center for Performing Arts. Sigh.
The problem is some of the left on this Board out and out lie, sensationalized topics and now I’ve learned Lambo and Lapsody are doppels. They forgot to change identities when replying to me.
I detest doppels, there were so many of them at the FOOL, ganging up on posters.
From now on I will ignore any replies from the doppel twins. Doppelgängers are deceitful and I hope they have a shed of decency
to not reply to my posts.
So, back on topic, yes, I can see my confusion now, but I did learn
a few things looking for information on the topic, so all was not
in vain on my part. I do not have a favorite President but have
admiration for some, both democrat and republican presidents.
My favorite First Lady is Jacqueline Kennedy.
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Just for the record, Lincoln is my favorite president
A man for his time.
Your mention of the movie has made me want to rewatch it. It's a reminder, in this most depressing of political times, that our nation can produce great leaders. Let us hope it will again.
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Your mention of the movie has made me want to rewatch it. It's a reminder, in this most depressing of political times, that our nation can produce great leaders. Let us hope it will again.
Yes, of course, it is happening right before your eyes with President Trump now at the helm.😁
