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Author: in4ever   😊 😞
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Subject: OT: Valueline cash computation
Date: 11/10/2023 3:34 PM
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I read an old post recently (http://www.datahelper.com/mi/search.phtml?nofool=y...) and Jim mentioned a filter of

* highest 15 by cash to market cap ratio

Within 'Value Line', is this computed by: ('Cash and Market Securities' - 'Long Term Debt') / 'Market Cap'?

I'm curious how this has performed recently. Last post I saw on it was from Nov-21

Thanks,
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Author: mungofitch ✹🐝🐝🐝🐝 SILVER
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Subject: Re: OT: Valueline cash computation
Date: 11/10/2023 3:59 PM
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I'm curious how this has performed recently. Last post I saw on it was from Nov-21

Pretty badly lately. Do you want details?

As always, it's a matter of trying to decide whether it's the cycle or the trend.
Zero-dividend medical stocks have NOT been the flavour of the day for a while.

Very quick check, don't hold me to this,
Jan 2020 through Aug 2023
S&P about 11%/year
No-div 15 stock version about 2%/year
With-div 15 stock version about 8.5%/year

Most of the bad returns May-Aug 2023. Maybe just random variation, maybe not.

Jim
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Author: in4ever   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: OT: Valueline cash computation
Date: 11/10/2023 4:28 PM
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Jim,

Thanks for the reply. Is this the correct 'Value Line' computation for highest 15 by cash to market cap ratio

('Cash and Market Securities' - 'Long Term Debt') / 'Market Cap'?

Regards,

Pete
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Author: mungofitch ✹🐝🐝🐝🐝 SILVER
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Subject: Re: OT: Valueline cash computation
Date: 11/11/2023 2:58 PM
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Is this the correct 'Value Line' computation for highest 15 by cash to market cap ratio
('Cash and Market Securities' - 'Long Term Debt') / 'Market Cap'?

I believe this specific screen is simply
'Cash and Market Securities' / 'Market Cap'

The reasoning:
The medical devices category includes some firms still developing their products.
The ones with large current piles of cash tend not to blow up in the short term--if you merely eliminate a few blowups from any portfolio, things tend to get better.

Jim
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