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Author: WiltonKnight   😊 😞
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Subject: Progressive Shoe Shiners
Date: 11/27/2023 2:04 PM
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Hey Progressives.....

Are you gonna try to beat Senator Sinema like you said you would?

:)

Shhhhhhh you love Wall Street as much as she does, and more than Trump does.

LOL
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Author: albaby1 🐝 HONORARY
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Subject: Re: Progressive Shoe Shiners
Date: 11/27/2023 2:25 PM
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Hey Progressives.....

Are you gonna try to beat Senator Sinema like you said you would?


Yes, they are. Rep. Ruben Gallego (member of the House Progressive Caucus) has long since declared that he was running for the Democratic nomination. He'll likely be the party's nominee, and have the full-throated support of progressive groups in Arizona and nationally.
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Author: Dope1   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Progressive Shoe Shiners
Date: 11/27/2023 3:07 PM
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Yes, they are. Rep. Ruben Gallego (member of the House Progressive Caucus) has long since declared that he was running for the Democratic nomination. He'll likely be the party's nominee, and have the full-throated support of progressive groups in Arizona and nationally.

And hopefully one of 2 things happen.

1. The GOP nominates somebody other than Kari Lake, Sinema splits the vote, and the GOP takes the seat.
2. The AZ GOP convinces KS to run as a Republican (she won't, but it's a possibility).

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Author: onepoorguy 🐝  😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Progressive Shoe Shiners
Date: 11/27/2023 3:23 PM
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Which will likely give it to whomever the Reps run, assuming it isn't McSally again. (She's a mess.)

Sinema and Gallego will divide the vote, and AZ is sufficiently red that their candidate should win.
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Subject: Re: Progressive Shoe Shiners
Date: 11/27/2023 4:36 PM
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Which will likely give it to whomever the Reps run, assuming it isn't McSally again. (She's a mess.)

Sinema and Gallego will divide the vote, and AZ is sufficiently red that their candidate should win.


Is anyone running for the GOP nom other than Lake?
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Author: WiltonKnight   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Progressive Shoe Shiners
Date: 11/27/2023 5:53 PM
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Let's hope Gallego wins, and Progressives get one more Senate Seat.

We've seen lately in foreign policy in the Middle East.... Progressives deserve, and should have a louder voice in the US Senate.
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Author: WiltonKnight   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Progressive Shoe Shiners
Date: 11/27/2023 5:55 PM
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I personally don't like Lake. I feel - bad person.

HOWEVER very good candidate. Despite what Google Jockeys and Establishment types want to think it's not Trumpism that cost her the election.

It was abortion. No different than most Republican losses that year.
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Author: onepoorguy 🐝  😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Progressive Shoe Shiners
Date: 11/27/2023 6:12 PM
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Yes, but nobody significant. She'll probably get the nomination. Masters is an ideologue (e.g. no abortion, including in cases of rape). Lamb I've never heard of before.

Gallego should win if Sinema doesn't run. To the best of my knowledge, she is.

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/senate/...
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Author: onepoorguy 🐝  😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Progressive Shoe Shiners
Date: 11/27/2023 6:53 PM
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Abortion played a role, but it was Trumpism, too. Not that she supported Trump. That wasn't a problem for her (alas), but that she spouted hair-brained conspiracy theories. That lost her the moderates and independents.
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Author: albaby1 🐝 HONORARY
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Subject: Re: Progressive Shoe Shiners
Date: 11/27/2023 7:12 PM
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Let's hope Gallego wins, and Progressives get one more Senate Seat.

We've seen lately in foreign policy in the Middle East.... Progressives deserve, and should have a louder voice in the US Senate.


Again, I know a lot of this is just performative - but do you genuinely have an opinion about Gallego's position on Israel and Gaza?

From what I've been able to Google quickly, he seems to be leaning far more towards the Fetterman side of the caucus than the Tlaib side - whether from personal conviction or perhaps because Phoenix has a fairly sizable Jewish population:

Look, I think that number one calling for a ceasefire when Israel, we know, will not take it, is probably not the best idea. We need to be calling for Israel to do its best to reduce civilian casualties, to open up humanitarian pathways for... for people to move and for people to actually bring in, you know, food aid and things of that nature.

And the other... at the other end of it we have to remind the people that we're not dealing with a civilian government. We are dealing with a terrorist organization that is using civilians, using hostages as human shields. And unfortunately, in this scenario, the best we can do is to make sure that we give support to Israel, we give them the intelligence that they need so they target terrorists, and that we encourage them to reduce civilian harm.


https://rubengallego.house.gov/media-center/press-...
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Author: WiltonKnight   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Progressive Shoe Shiners
Date: 11/28/2023 3:58 PM
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Google Jockeys love their links.

To me it's more about the big picture.

I dont care if Galego or whatever his name is bows to AIPAC - if that's what he has to do.

But....inch by inch, chant by chant, Progressivism, especially on the Middle East is become a bit less taboo.

It's takes time to take down evil. Lots of time.

But any success of Progressives, is one tiny miniscule step.

We are willing to wait.

Israel owns the watches.

But we - own the time

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