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No. of Recommendations: 4
The UK just handed their center-left Labour party a big win in parliament. They have an outright majority (almost 2/3 of the seats), meaning they won't need a coalition with any of the further left parties to get their agenda done. This ends 14 years of Conservative rule in the UK.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o2J0rFoZl3IIs there any chance of a bit of spill over into the US? Guess we'll have to wait and see.
--Peter
No. of Recommendations: 2
No.
It wasn’t necessarily an endorsement of Labour; more like a rejection of the Tories who had been governing like the Liberals. A lot of conservatives decided that the UK establish,ent should go down in flames, and it did.
No. of Recommendations: 14
It wasn’t necessarily an endorsement of Labour; more like a rejection of the Tories who had been governing like the Liberals.
Why wouldn't they go for one of the parties further to the right? They could have gone to the Reform party instead of the Labour. If the Tories were governing like liberals and the people weren't happy with that, why pick the liberal Labour instead? Seems like that would be a move from a party acting like liberals to the actual liberals. And that makes no sense.
Seems more like a full on rejection of Conservative policies, particularly Brexit, which isn't working out at all like the Conservatives said it would.
--Peter
No. of Recommendations: 1
{{ Seems more like a full on rejection of Conservative policies, particularly Brexit, which isn't working out at all like the Conservatives said it would. }}
What's instructive is how long it took after the failure of Brexit for Tory voters to identify the cause (i.e., Tory politicians.) That education was long and expensive -- the country has been scraping by for years.
intercst
No. of Recommendations: 2
Why wouldn't they go for one of the parties further to the right? They could have gone to the Reform party instead of the Labour.Many did. Nigel Farage specifically wanted to break the Tories and formed his own party.
Seems more like a full on rejection of Conservative policies,In your mind you want to project your need to believe that your politics are sooper popular but the reality is that it’s more complicated than that.
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-68494168'The highest tax burden for 70 years' - Keir Starmer
Mr Starmer is right - the overall level of taxation last year was the highest for more than 70 years.
And it is forecast to get higher.</k>
They’re on pace to collect an INSANE amount of taxes, in fact:
The Office for Budget Responsibility (OBR) - the independent body which makes forecasts for the government - predicts that it will collect 37.1p of every pound generated in the economy in 2028-29.
That sound conservative to you?
Go watch Clarkson’s Farm on Amazon (you won’t because I’m the one recommending it). It’ll show you how choked with regulation their farm sector is - they literally can’t do anything without getting some inspector over.
It’s more complicated than Orange Man BADBADBAD Republicans stinky.
No. of Recommendations: 2
Seems more like a full on rejection of Conservative policies, particularly Brexit, which isn't working out at all like the Conservatives said it would.
Yes, Brexit was a huge mistake and I think most Brits understand that now.
No. of Recommendations: 1
'The highest tax burden for 70 years' - Keir Starmer
Mr Starmer is right - the overall level of taxation last year was the highest for more than 70 years.
And it is forecast to get higher.</k>
They’re on pace to collect an INSANE amount of taxes, in fact:
The Office for Budget Responsibility (OBR) - the independent body which makes forecasts for the government - predicts that it will collect 37.1p of every pound generated in the economy in 2028-29.
That sound conservative to you?
Dope, they're lower than France and Germany, but they've been lower - the GDP isn't rising.
Output per hour worked in similar countries has also increased only slowly since the global financial crisis. But low levels of business investment, Brexit barriers to trade, low public investment and problems with skills training have been cited as factors that have left Britain lagging its peers.
No. of Recommendations: 2
Seems more like a full on rejection of Conservative policies, particularly Brexit, which isn't working out at all like the Conservatives said it would.
It absolutely was. The conservatives implemented policies that have severely damaged NHS, they did Brexit, they cut benefits...I recall hearing a discussion about it recently. I don't remember now everything that they screwed up, but screw it up they did. Not pursuing liberal policies, but, rather, very conservative ones. For fourteen years.
As usual, it's up to the liberals (real liberals...not like the Democrats) to try to fix the conservative mess.
No. of Recommendations: 5
Seems more like a full on rejection of Conservative policies, particularly Brexit, which isn't working out at all like the Conservatives said it would. It is, but it’s more than that. They’ve been governing with a hash of Conservative polities, and are saddled with a moribund economy thanks, in part, to Brexit.
The worst of the policies is that they’ve been demanding a “balanced budget” and “no deficits”. That’s why the tax collection rates are so high (that Dope’s been complaining about). They’ve refused to use deficits to try to improve the economy - and it shows. Brexit made it worse. Industries have fled just across the Channel so as to have access to the vastly larger economy of the EU without so much “border red tape.” Others have just quietly folded, or accepted that they will do less business as a result of the closed border.
Britain Election Winner’s First Problem: Fix a Stagnant Economy
After more than a decade of deep budget cuts, slow growth and weak productivity, the country has struggled to overcome years of uncertainty and underinvestment. https://www.nytimes.com/2024/06/19/business/britai...Meanwhile the NHS, a service EVERYBODY sees, now has backlogs of unimaginable length, something that was not true when the Conservatives took over. Unemployment is high. Services are getting worse. And yes, taxes are also high, a result of that Calvinist “We must try to eliminate the deficit” mantra that Conservatives complain about but usually don’t when they’re in power. This time they tried. Oops.
Anyway, yes, wipeout. Labor has enough seats to rule without even bothering to bring in allies. No, this will no translate here, it’s a sum long overdue) of conditions enabled and prosecuted by the Conservatives for the past 14 years.
What Have Fourteen Years of Conservative Rule Done to Britain?
Living standards have fallen. The country is exhausted by constant drama. But the U.K. can’t move on from the Tories without facing up to the damage that has occurred. https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2024/04/01/what...
