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Author: Dope1   😊 😞
Number: of 48466 
Subject: Sanity starting to reassert in Oregon
Date: 02/29/2024 1:51 PM
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A while back Oregon de-criminalized hard drugs. To anyone with a pulse this was going to result in a defacto legalization at the state level of some very dangerous drugs...with all the attendant consequences.

Well, they got them:
https://oregoncapitalchronicle.com/2024/02/27/lawm...

Oregon lawmakers on the joint addiction committee on Tuesday evening voted for a proposal to backtrack on Measure 110 and reshape the state’s approach to the drug addiction and overdose crisis after months of planning and an intensive three weeks of debate and reworking the proposal.

The committee’s bipartisan 10-2 vote to send the bill to the House came after wrenching testimony in a series of hours-long meetings by family members who lost loved ones to fentanyl as well as opposition from civil rights advocates and public defense attorneys. To become law, the bill needs to pass the House and Senate and be signed by Gov. Tina Kotek.


What was Oregon's Measure 110?
https://ballotpedia.org/Oregon_Measure_110,_Drug_D...(2020)

Oregon Measure 110, the Drug Decriminalization and Addiction Treatment Initiative, was on the ballot in Oregon as an initiated state statute on November 3, 2020.[1] It was approved.

A "yes" vote supported making personal non-commercial possession of a controlled substance no more than a Class E violation (max fine of $100 fine) and establishing a drug addiction treatment and recovery program funded in part by the state's marijuana tax revenue and state prison savings.


One thing that's discussed is the failure of the "War on drugs" and that legalization is a better way to go. However, the experience of places like Oregon and in cities like Seattle indicate otherwise.

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Author: Lapsody 🐝  😊 😞
Number: of 48466 
Subject: Re: Sanity starting to reassert in Oregon
Date: 02/29/2024 2:18 PM
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A while back Oregon de-criminalized hard drugs. To anyone with a pulse this was going to result in a defacto legalization at the state level of some very dangerous drugs...with all the attendant consequences.

See Portugal.
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Author: bighairymike   😊 😞
Number: of 48466 
Subject: Re: Sanity starting to reassert in Oregon
Date: 02/29/2024 5:22 PM
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One thing that's discussed is the failure of the "War on drugs" and that legalization is a better way to go. However, the experience of places like Oregon and in cities like Seattle indicate otherwise. = Dope

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The war on drugs has in fact, failed, long past time to admit that. But it is a false choice of either "War on drugs" or "Legalization".

Clearly treating the problem as a crime problem has not worked, so decriminalization of some sort is inherent in any solution. However, other measures are necessary involving access to mental health and drug treatment programs.

Then there is the location of spontaneous homeless encampments themselves. City and States should outlaw urban camping and provide alternate locations where homeless camping is permitted and even supported with a little infrastructure. Higher security facilities would no doubt be required to separate the homeless who can't follow the rules.

Half the money presently spent on the war on drugs would fund all the facilities we could ever need.
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Author: Dope1   😊 😞
Number: of 48466 
Subject: Re: Sanity starting to reassert in Oregon
Date: 03/04/2024 10:57 AM
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Clearly treating the problem as a crime problem has not worked, so decriminalization of some sort is inherent in any solution. However, other measures are necessary involving access to mental health and drug treatment programs.

With respect, we've seen that not work. I favor a combo of jail and rehab, such as Rhode Island's program...I'll post on that.
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Author: Lapsody 🐝  😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Sanity starting to reassert in Oregon
Date: 03/04/2024 1:06 PM
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With respect, we've seen that not work.


It would be helpful if you'd say where we saw it not work. I know I always look to Portugal, but I don't think you're referring to that.
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Author: Dope1   😊 😞
Number: of 48466 
Subject: Re: Sanity starting to reassert in Oregon
Date: 03/04/2024 1:29 PM
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It would be helpful if you'd say where we saw it not work.

Oregon, Seattle, and Vancouver, B.C.
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