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Author: Velcher 🐝  😊 😞
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Subject: Mrs. Robinson
Date: 09/17/2025 11:03 AM
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"She stated that Robinson began to date his roommate, a biological male who was transitioning genders.”

It's understandable that a shocked and reeling mother is grasping desperately for scraps to explain something inexplicable to herself and the world.

For my part, I don't see that it makes a bit of difference who thought what, or believed what, or who leaned or didn't lean one way or the other, or who was or wasn't transitioning, or who hated or loved or couldn't have cared less.

Those are just thoughts.

The media unfailingly reports each time: "Authorities are searching for a motive." Why? What will that accomplish?

Isn't the means the real problem?

What I do think would be enlightening is for her to say, even if it is only to herself, in the midnight of her soul,

"Boy, though, we sure did make a big deal out of guns in our lives."
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Author: Lambo 🐝  😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Mrs. Robinson
Date: 09/17/2025 11:38 AM
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"Authorities are searching for a motive." Why? What will that accomplish?

Because we all want to know, that's why. I wanna know, that's why.
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Author: Velcher 🐝  😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Mrs. Robinson
Date: 09/17/2025 11:54 AM
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"Authorities are searching for a motive." Why? What will that accomplish?

Because we all want to know, that's why. I wanna know, that's why.

Isn't Paul Newman's line to Sally Field (the reporter) in Absence of Malice: "You don't write the truth. You write what people say."?
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Author: AlphaWolf 🐝🐝  😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Mrs. Robinson
Date: 09/17/2025 12:01 PM
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The media unfailingly reports each time: "Authorities are searching for a motive." Why? What will that accomplish?

I understand that from a law enforcement perspective, motive is considered an important element of a crime. But from my point of view, it’s silly to expect that motive will bring any closure or understanding. That’s because I believe that anyone who murders a person in cold blood has to be insane (from cold-blooded Charles Manson to some hot-blooded twenty-something who thinks the world is out to get him). And looking for a rational explanation from an insane person is, well, insane.

Just me.
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Author: Lapsody 🐝  😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Mrs. Robinson
Date: 09/17/2025 12:05 PM
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Because we all want to know, that's why. I wanna know, that's why.

Isn't Paul Newman's line to Sally Field


We still want to know why. Sometimes we're satisfied with a lie, sometimes we adjust to never knowing.
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Author: g0177325 🐝  😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Mrs. Robinson
Date: 09/17/2025 1:12 PM
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That’s because I believe that anyone who murders a person in cold blood has to be insane

Would the murderer of Adolph Hitler have been insane?
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Author: jerryab   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Mrs. Robinson
Date: 09/17/2025 1:27 PM
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Would the murderer of Adolph Hitler have been insane?

He committed suicide so he would NOT be arrested and put on trial.
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Subject: Re: Mrs. Robinson
Date: 09/17/2025 1:30 PM
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That’s because I believe that anyone who murders a person in cold blood has to be insane

Really? I don't think so. Lots of completely rational people will kill for rational reasons. You have to be a horrible person to murder someone, but you don't have to be insane to do it.
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Subject: Re: Mrs. Robinson
Date: 09/17/2025 1:46 PM
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Would the murderer of Adolph Hitler have been insane?

Depends on when they murdered him.

When what he ‘might’ do lay in the future?

Or after he had murdered millions, was not in custody, and conceivably could murder more?

Or……… after he was in custody?


Is murder by a state- insane, or even murder?

Just questions. Not answers.

Occasionally, rolling around such questions in our own minds helps us look at our own moral/ethical framework.
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Author: AlphaWolf 🐝🐝  😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Mrs. Robinson
Date: 09/17/2025 2:00 PM
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Really? I don't think so. Lots of completely rational people will kill for rational reasons.

And I thought you and I were the only sane people on this board.

Now I’m beginning to worry about you.
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Author: ptheland 🐝  😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Mrs. Robinson
Date: 09/17/2025 2:06 PM
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Depends on when they murdered him.

In the middle of a war, as a national leader of one of the belligerent countries he's probably a legitimate military target.

Just more musing.

--Peter
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Author: ptheland 🐝  😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Mrs. Robinson
Date: 09/17/2025 2:11 PM
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And I thought you and I were the only sane people on this board.

Being neither Al nor AW, I take some comfort in that. I have not been mistaken for a sane person. My mental state has been affirmed. :-)

--Peter
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Author: albaby1 🐝 HONORARY
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Subject: Re: Mrs. Robinson
Date: 09/17/2025 2:14 PM
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And I thought you and I were the only sane people on this board.

Now I’m beginning to worry about you.


Why? Murder is an act of depravity and evil, but you don't have to be insane to do it.

For example, one of our local real estate developers apparently tried to have his wife killed. They were going through a bitter divorce, and he didn't want to lose half his fortune. So he hired some guys to try to kill her.

The guys he hired weren't insane. They were willing to kill a person for money. Neither was the developer insane. He wanted to kill his wife so that he wouldn't lose money.

Those choices are evil, not the result of an inability of their brains to function properly. They were fully cognizant of what they were doing, capable of understanding the difference between right and wrong, capable of exercising judgment, and capable of making choices for themselves. They just chose to do the immoral evil thing. They don't meet the legal definition of insanity (obviously), but I don't think they meet the colloquial definition of insanity either. Their mental processes were not so disordered that they lacked the ability to cogitate or apprehend the choices they were making.

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Author: sano 🐝🐝  😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Mrs. Robinson
Date: 09/17/2025 4:30 PM
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You have to be a horrible person to murder someone, but you don't have to be insane to do it.

Hard no.

My Dad bought a pistol in Turkey during the final summer trip with his Wandervogel group in 1938.

Back home in Vienna that year leading up to Krystallnacht his elder brother carried it in his coat pocket as he and his buddies protected the neighborhood from roving bands of Nazi youth.

My Uncle wrote that he would pull the gun out of his pocket when an 'encounter' with Nazi youth was not going well.... and the Nazi punks always fled. If my uncle had had to shot one of those Nazi punks in defense of his neighborhood would that make him a horrible person? No. He knew who the Nazis were and what they were doing.

Nazis last weekend at a beach close to where I lived/worked/surfed for many many years:
https://www.reddit.com/r/CoachellaValley/comments/...
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Author: sano 🐝🐝  😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Mrs. Robinson
Date: 09/17/2025 6:38 PM
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He knew who the Nazis were and what they were doing.

..and the ironic thing is, mu uncle and Dad, like all Austrian guys their age, were already Werpass toting German army conscripts, military IDs swastika emblazoned and stamped (your papers, please).

I just learned about Google Lens, so used it to read his 'Werpass' (military I.D. book issued by the Wien Military Command on June 11 1938. Daunting. This is not ancient history.

They'd be more than a little annoyed by these Trump supporting black shirts marching down the beach.
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