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Author: LurkerMom   😊 😞
Number: of 48466 
Subject: I’m Here “To Take The Money”
Date: 02/19/2024 7:53 PM
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“Dozens of Chinese migrants spotted entering US illegally in California border town of Jacumba and say they're here to 'take the money' along with others from Syria and Turkey
Chinese nationals now make up the fastest-growing nationality of illegal border crossers into the US
Over 37,000 Chinese migrants crossed in the 2023 fiscal year - and almost 20,000 have crossed since October, according to US government
Jacumba, California has become crossing hot spot for Chinese nationals

“When asked why he'd come to America, one young man from Guangzhou replied: 'To take the money'”

Others arriving in Jacumba had come from Turkey and Syria. Border Patrol Agents previously warned Washington lawmakers that it is impossible for them to vet everyone who enters the country because the numbers are so out of control

More than 150 Chinese nationals a day have been sneaking into the US illegally since October, according to startling US Customs and Border Protection statistics.”

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/us-border-crisis/...

I wonder when the American Citizen rebellion will begin.


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Author: Dope1   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: I’m Here “To Take The Money”
Date: 02/19/2024 8:09 PM
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I wonder when the American Citizen rebellion will begin.

Hopefully in November. Meanwhile, we get to live the left's Cloward-Priven strategy of seeing the system get overwhelmed.
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Author: Dope1   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: I’m Here “To Take The Money”
Date: 02/19/2024 8:14 PM
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You know, this kinda shoots down the notion that everybody running to the southern border is fleeing Central American gangs. Or something.
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Author: Lapsody 🐝  😊 😞
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Subject: Re: I’m Here “To Take The Money”
Date: 02/19/2024 8:58 PM
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<snip>It's tough to put everybody in the same box: that they're all tourist, they're all coming all gang members, they're all bad actors,' the Republican added.

'At the same time, you can't say they're all coming here for opportunity and fleeing Xi's repressive regime.

'This is once again, why is its so important that we allow zero people to come over illegally, and any of these people seeking asylum, they get their cases heard immediately.

'Regardless of what ethnicity or what country you're coming from, you get your day in court and if you don't qualify, you get deported back to China, Venezuela or wherever the hell you came from.' <snip>
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Author: Lapsody 🐝  😊 😞
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Subject: Re: I’m Here “To Take The Money”
Date: 02/19/2024 10:49 PM
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You know, this kinda shoots down the notion that everybody running to the southern border is fleeing Central American gangs. Or something.

1. No one said everybody running to the southern border is fleeing Central American gangs. In fact without examining it too much I was willing to believe 10-15% were frauds. Sano thinks a lot are economic refugees, but I did the math and 26% of those who ask for asylum are ultimately granted asylum. I think it's a mixed and varied bag.

2. This is about Chinese who are fleeing China. And one young man when asked, said he was here to "take the money" and wants a job. Clearly an economic refugee. How about everyone else of the hundreds shown in the video? Also, how is a man from China fleeing Central American gangs?

We have authoritarian regimes like Venezuela, Cuba, Nicaragua that people flee from.

3. At this point he applies for asylum and has 4-6 years of work until his hearing. Is that a win? I dunno.

But it doesn't shoot anything down.

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Author: sano 🐝  😊 😞
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Subject: Re: I’m Here “To Take The Money”
Date: 02/20/2024 11:31 AM
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Sano thinks a lot are economic refugees, but I did the math and 26% of those who ask for asylum are ultimately granted asylum.

Sure. It's not uncommon to hear immigrants who came for the economic opportunity talking about looking forward to the day they've earned enough to go home to visit their friends and family in El Salvador, Ecuador, Mex, etc.

A recent article in one of the major rags (NYT or LA Times?) interviewed migrants who came here under the radar with the idea they'd work for 20 or 30 years, then return 'home' with enough dollars to retire in comfort. But they never earned that money and now they are broke, too old to work, no social security, no pensions.... and terrified of falling into the homeless nightmare.
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Author: Lapsody 🐝  😊 😞
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Subject: Re: I’m Here “To Take The Money”
Date: 02/20/2024 8:58 PM
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Sure. It's not uncommon to hear immigrants who came for the economic opportunity talking about looking forward to the day they've earned enough to go home to visit their friends and family in El Salvador, Ecuador, Mex, etc.

A recent article in one of the major rags (NYT or LA Times?) interviewed migrants who came here under the radar with the idea they'd work for 20 or 30 years, then return 'home' with enough dollars to retire in comfort. But they never earned that money and now they are broke, too old to work, no social security, no pensions.... and terrified of falling into the homeless nightmare.


I lived in So Cal and was surrounded by them. And as I said previously, during the initial parts of the GFC they were all headed home and we had an outflux to Latin America which surprised me. Nearly all of them were up here working and sending money home every month. There's services that charge ~ 5% and the out transfer is broken down by country in reports some times.

I get concerned about the small farmer and they generally rely on people coming up annually looking for work. They rely on those workers and if that dries up it severely inhibits getting the crop out. There were spots near Home Depot where contractors could pick up day laborers.

Typically, they used someone elses' SS# and worked under the radar or just got paid under the table. I don't resent them at all. They're usually working hard for little pay and living in cheap packed conditions so they can send money home.
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