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As an esteemed poster correctly said - can't correlate France and Macron to Trump. Trump would be a civil rights activist for that society. Mind you - the people who have been discriminated and killed by Europe from the moment Europeans were on earth, until oh, 5 minutes ago - - don't care about glib remarks about Hollande vs Macron - mind you those making those distinctions don't give a hoot about the people - so it's a big happy family I guess.

Anyhow, back to an "exploding" (lol) population in France continuously mistreated, and each day showing the world that slogans and memes are just that - for the haughty to feel good about themselves, before heading to brunch in their non-diverse locale.

They can lodge, obfuscate, but they can't speak to millions of people in human history. In some cases, the victims - are responding heroically. (By that I mean, writing letters of course.....I'm big on cursive.....)


https://www.news.az/news/politics-of-islamophobia-...

"Politics of Islamophobia in France, which chose racism and discrimination instead of tolerance and multiculturalism"
According to a study published by the Washington-based Pew Research Center at the end of November 2017 on the demographic situation of Muslim people in European countries, in the middle of 2016, 8.8 percent of the French population (5.7 million people) consisted of Muslims. According to the statistics of the German Statista company, 8 percent of the French population is Muslim. Among European cities, the city of Paris and the Ile-de-France region are on the first place in terms of the number of Muslim population. It is believed that 2.8 million Muslims live here. France, with its population of 67.5 million, ranks first among the countries of the European Union in terms of the number of Muslims. This number is predicted to more than double by 2050."

This fine group MUST be supported as they resist Xenophobic Trumpy calls for them to "assimilate" and "speak the language". I only do a tiny part - -- wish I had the resources to do more.

"AZERTAC presents to the readers some aspects of racism, Islamophobia and anti-Semitism that have reached extreme levels in France, which presents itself to the world as "tolerant" and "democratic"."


America - not perfect. Europe?NO right to lecture. Those who whine about Trump this, Trump that - while keeping huge segments of America trapped in perpetual generational failure, and turning a blind eye to their European heroes? As Cyndi says.... we see your True Colors, shining thru............

Trump would be a civil rights activist for that society. Mind you - the people who have been discriminated and killed by Europe from the moment Europeans were on earth, until oh, 5 minutes ago

Your objectivity needs to be exhumed. And I'd like to remind you of the indigenous populations here in the US who Americans mercilessly slaughtered over the centuries to get their land. And forays into other parts of the world.

France certainly has its problems. As does the US. As do many other countries. Unfortunately.


and turning a blind eye to their European heroes?

I'm just shaking my head at the fictions you manage to construct. I hope your real life is more reality-based than your posts here.

And I'd like to remind you of the indigenous populations here in the US who Americans mercilessly slaughtered over the centuries to get their land. - sheila

The Indians were slaughtering and enslaving one another for centuries before the Europeans even got here.

And the Inca's and Mayans were enslaving and sacrificing one another long before that.

History is full of weaker populations being subjugated by more powerful invaders. It may not be right, but it is the way of the world. That is why most nations have a potent military.

The present state of many (not all) American Indians is sad but self selected. Compare to the success of recent immigrants who integrated themselves into American society and learned how to access the boundless opportunities available in America. It is why the rest of the world wants to migrate here. Yet the American Indians, who are already here, languish on the reservations forever dependent on Government handouts. OK with me, it is their choice but I am not going to feel guilty about it.

The Indians were slaughtering and enslaving one another for centuries before the Europeans even got here..... History is full of weaker populations being subjugated by more powerful invaders. It may not be right, but it is the way of the world.

Yes. The populations of the world are tribal.

First: the fact that native American tribes were slaughtering and enslaving one another before the Europeans arrived doesn't justify what the settlers did to them.

Second: if conquering peoples from other cultures....and killing/subjugating to accomplish it....is simply the way of the world, then why does Wilton make such a big big deal of how awful the French were in that respect, and how.....he is convinced....kind the U.S. has been.


Yet the American Indians, who are already here, languish on the reservations forever dependent on Government handouts. OK with me, it is their choice

I don't think you're aware of much of what has been happening on and off the reservations, both in terms of the challenges that native Americans face and the successes an increasing number are making in overcoming them.

I don't think you're aware of much of what has been happening on and off the reservations, both in terms of the challenges that native Americans face and the successes an increasing number are making in overcoming them. - Sheila

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Probably not. It would help if the success stories (along with how the successes were achieved) were promoted with equal vigor and frequency as the downtrodden stories.

It would help if the success stories (along with how the successes were achieved) were promoted with equal vigor and frequency as the downtrodden stories.

Perhaps the problem is that the appetite for the downtrodden stories is much greater.

You should also realize that American efforts at destroying indigenous Americans isn't limited to the days of the settlers. There is a cruel history.....until quite recently....of the approach by government of separating children from their families and culture and place them in boarding schools where they were treated as second class citizens and every effort was made to erase their countless-centuries-old tribal culture, traditions, and values and replace them with American Protestantism. And doing this while creating harshly discriminatory conditions on the reservations.

Probably not. It would help if the success stories (along with how the successes were achieved) were promoted with equal vigor and frequency as the downtrodden stories.

Are you serious? The world surrounds us with the heroic stories of 'great' Americans. Jeff Bezos! Henry Ford! FDR! Microsoft! Paul Revere! The end of Bin Laden! We celebrate the robber barons of Wall Street like Carnegie, Morgan, and Frick, we never hear the stories of the workers who died in their steel mills and coal mines coughing and gasping for air amid their black lung disease or worse.

There are military bases across the land named for Confederate generals! (How many are named for slaves?) Ft Bragg is one, and he is widely considered inept and one of the worst generals of the Confederacy, yet he has national reputation. Not a bad outcome for an incompetent traitor to America, I'll say.

If you want to focus on native Americans, how many can you name? Other than those who either fought and lost to whites or, counterintuitively helped the whites survive and become dominant?

OMG, you live in the middle of Heroic Theater, and you complain about the pitiful few who break through the curtain to tell a sad story. You want to talk about history shaping? In Florida a textbook publisher just erased the color of Rosa Parks life:

A science and social studies-focused textbook publisher used in 45,000 Florida schools initially removed all references in a draft lesson on Rosa Parks' race in order to comply with Florida's Stop WOKE Act
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Studies Weekly created a version of its lesson on Parks for first graders for the state's review of social studies curriculum. This version regarding Parks ' the Black woman who refused to give up her bus seat to a white man ' does not explicitly mention that she was Black, according to the Times. Instead, the publisher writes that she was told to move "because of the color of her skin." 

A second version goes even further, failing to mention race at all. 
"She was told to move to a different seat. She did not. She did what she believed was right," the textbook passage read

Seriously, the single most important fact in the entire episode is (literally) white washed. And you're worried about 'woke'? Wow.

Just do it without the boarding school factor, and the false outrage will vanish.

In France the "mandatory" schooling will start at age 3, not 6.

Much of that is to have children from certain households be forced to assimilate into French society.

And while Junior is at school his Mom and Sister will be in harshly discriminatory conditions, unable to wear chosen headdress or swim wear in some cases.

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