Halls of Shrewd'm / US Policy
No. of Recommendations: 13
Federal authorities told demonstrators Friday that there would be “no more prayer” in front of or inside the ICE facility in Broadview, Illinois.
“I’m dumbfounded,” the police chief told Block Club. “Every time I talk with [federal officials], it feels like their rules keep changing. We don’t really know what’s happening, I’m sorry I can’t say more. We just want to keep people safe and let them peacefully protest without getting hurt.”
Protesters expressed concern that the direction from federal officials could be in violation of the First Amendment, which guarantees both freedom of religion and assembly. The move also comes days after the AP reported that Pope Leo XIV urged authorities to allow pastoral workers to be able to access detained migrants.Is there any part of the First Amendment the Trump administration isn’t happy to violate?
And gee, weren't there nightly vigils held by January 6 families at “Freedom Corner” outside the D.C. jail for, well, years? I don't remember the Biden administration taking away that right.
https://blockclubchicago.org/2025/11/07/feds-tell-...
No. of Recommendations: 5
“I’m dumbfounded,” the police chief told Block Club. “Every time I talk with [federal officials], it feels like their rules keep changing. We don’t really know what’s happening, I’m sorry I can’t say more. We just want to keep people safe and let them peacefully protest without getting hurt.”
Protesters expressed concern that the direction from federal officials could be in violation of the First Amendment, which guarantees both freedom of religion and assembly. The move also comes days after the AP reported that Pope Leo XIV urged authorities to allow pastoral workers to be able to access detained migrants.
Is there any part of the First Amendment the Trump administration isn’t happy to violate?
Ask marco, he'll just ask you who voted for religion for immigrants or something.
"Federal legal precedent for religion in federal detentions is primarily based on the First Amendment's Free Exercise Clause and the Religious Land Use and Institutionalized Persons Act (RLUIPA). These laws protect an inmate's right to practice their religion, but government restrictions are permissible if they are the least restrictive means to serve a compelling government interest. Key court cases, like Holt v. Hobbs, have affirmed these rights, ruling against restrictions such as a ban on beards based on security concerns, which the Supreme Court found to be a violation of the law."
No. of Recommendations: 2
Please provide the full conversation and the context.
Clownish.
If they want to pray, they should pray.
If they get arrested for praying, and that's all they were doing--praying, not interfering with ICE operations, not trying to break into the facility--they'll just have a big fat profitable lawsuit.
Of course we know they weren't "just praying," don't we?
No. of Recommendations: 5
If they get arrested for praying, and that's all they were doing--praying, not interfering with ICE operations, not trying to break into the facility--they'll just have a big fat profitable lawsuit.
Already happened, including the big fat lawsuit.
No. of Recommendations: 15
Federal authorities told demonstrators Friday that there would be “no more prayer” in front of or inside the ICE facility in Broadview, Illinois.
Meanwhile, the regime demands prayer in public schools and allows bosses in Federal departments to proselytize to their subordinates.
Nah, no hypocrisy there.
/sarcasm
Steve
No. of Recommendations: 1
Nah, no hypocrisy there.
/sarcasm
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Sorry. If pro-lifers get arrested for silently praying outside of abortion clinics then these folks can share a cell.
No. of Recommendations: 11
Sorry. If pro-lifers get arrested for silently praying outside of abortion clinics then these folks can share a cell.
When they get arrested, it’s for blocking access to the clinic- often attempting to physically restrain women from entering.
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When they get arrested, it’s for blocking access to the clinic- often attempting to physically restrain women from entering.
Perhaps for some but democrat administrations are happy to lock up pro lifers and send loads of cops to raid their homes. Zero sympathy if Trump is also doing it.
No. of Recommendations: 10
Perhaps for some but democrat administrations are happy to lock up pro lifers and send loads of cops to raid their homes.
Given that abortion clinics have ben vandalized and bombed, and doctors who perform abortions- assassinated, I’m glad the police are doing their jobs.
No. of Recommendations: 1
Given that abortion clinics have ben vandalized and bombed, and doctors who perform abortions- assassinated, I’m glad the police are doing their jobs.
Given that ICE agents are being shot at and what not then we agree that the harshest possible penalties should be meted out to liberals.
No. of Recommendations: 9
Given that ICE agents are being shot at and what not then we agree that the harshest possible penalties should be meted out to liberals.
Given that Ice Agents are often breaking the law, no, I don’t agree
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Given that Ice Agents are often breaking the law, no, I don’t agree
Given that the left often denies there’s ever any rioting, I declare that statement False.
No. of Recommendations: 9
If pro-lifers get arrested for silently praying outside of abortion clinics then these folks can share a cell.
Have you got a cite? Because it's obstructing access, not praying, for which they get arrested.
No. of Recommendations: 3
Have you got a cite? Because it's obstructing access, not praying, for which they get arrested.
Mark Houck says hello.
This board was all for the FBI raiding his house.
So…this board is full of left wing hypocrites.
No. of Recommendations: 5
Mark Houck says hello.
This board was all for the FBI raiding his house.
He was charged with assault of a 72 year old volunteer escort. I've never liked the SWAT team arrests though.
No. of Recommendations: 3
He was charged with assault of a 72 year old volunteer escort. I've never liked the SWAT team arrests though.
Who was assaulting his 11 year old daughter.
Local cops declined to arrest. The local DA declined to file.
But not Biden’s FBI! They sent 20-something agents to his house to drag him out of there.
This board? Cheered.
His case? Dismissed in court.
No. of Recommendations: 4
Who was assaulting his 11 year old daughter.A bit of distortion there:
For almost two decades, according to the Philadelphia Inquirer, Houck had driven two hours from his home to protest and pray the rosary outside a Planned Parenthood in Philadelphia, often remaining there for hours at a time. (The CEO of Planned Parenthood of Southeastern Pennsylvania alleged that Houck carried a “large knife” on his belt and harassed, insulted, and even threatened patients.)
A video from October 2021 shows Houck twice shoving a man who was later identified as Bruce Love. Houck approached Love with pamphlets as the volunteer was trying to protect women who were leaving the clinic. The two men got into a heated exchange and Houck shoved Love, causing him to fall. (Love was not seriously injured.) Houck has maintained that he was acting in defense of his 12-year-old son, who was accompanying him, and has claimed that Love cursed and shouted abusive comments at them both.https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2024/04/pennsy...Former football All American shoves 72 year old volunteer to ground.
He said.
She said.
Aquittal
But it was a righteous investigation and there was enough evidence to charge him.
No. of Recommendations: 2
But it was a righteous investigation and there was enough evidence to charge him.
And yet, the local DA didn't.
But Biden's FBI wanted to make an example of this guy, so they did.
And his case got tossed.
So. Again, this board celebrated his arrest. This board can celebrate everyone that ICE brings in as well.
No. of Recommendations: 2
Who was assaulting his 11 year old daughter.
He was not assaulting and it was his 12 year old son.
I didn't like the arrest. I'm looking at video footage and listening. I'm open minded enough, but get your facts straight.
No. of Recommendations: 2
He was not assaulting and it was his 12 year old son.
Sure, whatever.
The point was that he was defending his child.
You loved political prosecutions when democrats were in charge. Now you’re pretending not to like them (and I’m not granting you people the point that ICE or whomever is doing what you allege).
You’ll like political prosecutions again the next time the democrats are in charge.
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The point was that he was defending his child.
The child was not assaulted.
No. of Recommendations: 13
So. Again, this board celebrated his arrest.
No, if anything we were interested in his arrest and you have a habit of misrepresenting the board.
No. of Recommendations: 5
The point was that he was defending his child.
You loved political prosecutions when democrats were in charge
No, the point is you get the facts wrong and make wild unsupported accusations. You're very irresponsible that way.
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That’s not what he maintained.
No. of Recommendations: 1
No, if anything we were interested in his arrest and you have a habit of misrepresenting the board.
Yes, you did.
This board hates pro-lifers with a fiery passion.
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No,
Yes.
The rest of your post is more twaddle. Do better.
No. of Recommendations: 14
This board hates pro-lifers with a fiery passion. Yes, some of them do seem to be arsonists. This is at least the second time the Kalamazoo clinic has been torched, as I remember it being set on fire in the 1980s.
GRAND RAPIDS, MICHIGAN — U.S. Attorney Mark Totten announced that his office filed a criminal complaint today charging Joshua Brereton with setting fire to a Planned Parenthood building in Kalamazoo, Michigan. Brereton, age 25, is a resident of Paw Paw, Michigan.
On July 31, 2022, law enforcement received a report of a fire in progress at the Planned Parenthood in Kalamazoo. Subsequent investigation, including review of video surveillance from the fire scene, revealed that, at approximately 4:00 p.m., a man now identified as Brereton breached the fence surrounding the building, used a combustible fuel to ignite the exterior bushes of the building, lit a fireplace starter log, and then threw the burning log onto the roof of the building, ultimately starting two separate fires. After the fires started, Brereton fled the scene.https://www.justice.gov/Usao-wdmi/pr/2022_0804_Bre...This pro-lifer preferred a different sort of fire.
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he suspect in a deadly gun attack on a Colorado family planning clinic said "no more baby parts" during his arrest, US media report.
Witnesses say Robert Lewis Dear was motivated by opposition to abortion, according to Planned Parenthood, which runs the clinic in Colorado Springs.
Two civilians and a police officer died and nine other people were injured.https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-34954474Funny how they have so much regard for people, while they are in the womb, and so little regard for people, after they are born.
Steve
No. of Recommendations: 12
This board hates pro-lifers with a fiery passion.
First, "pro-life" is a misnomer. They are anti-choice. If they were "pro-life", they would be in favor of supporting the child after birth. Most of them don't seem to care at that stage. Evidence is in the fact that most of them are republicans, and republicans generally oppose SNAP (latest surveys indicate about half of them...which is less than I expected, to be honest), and the ACA (and Medicaid - at least wanting to see a "work requirement" from the parents of the kids or no healthcare for them).
Second, you're making sweeping proclamations about how others think/feel. You seem to do that a lot. I don't recall reading anything by a pro-choice person on this board which would indicate hatred. We just think they are wrong and/or misguided. And the arsonists and assassins in their midst are criminals.
No. of Recommendations: 7
They also ignore Southside Bob, aka Pope Leo XIV, has said that you are not pro-life if you are pro-death penalty.
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I think frequent, cheap, readily available abortions are good for society as abortions disproportionately occur amongst poor minorities, thus culling the herd.
Margaret Sanger was on to something, for sure.
No. of Recommendations: 12
This board hates pro-lifers with a fiery passion.
Not all anti-abortionists.
Only those for whom it is not enough to make their own choices, but who are passing laws restricting the choices of everyone else.
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You are absolutely correct.
Society should ensure that readily available, free, safe abortions are provided to all those who cannot afford them, especially poor minorities, who are heavily economically disadvantaged and discriminated against.
Liberal middle or upper class white women can obviously afford to pay for their own abortions,and should, and in fact, their abortions should be increased in cost to help subsidize the cost of abortions for poor minority women.
This is consistent with how the ACA works.
In fact, as part of reparations, there should be a dedicated "abortion surtax" on ACA premiums wherein privileged white people pay for the abortions of poor minorities.
Hopefully, as the politicians wrangle over re-opening the government, this provision will be included in any new ACA legislation.
No. of Recommendations: 9
This board hates pro-lifers with a fiery passion.
No, we've just examined it. 100 years ago priests actually recommended abortions, over time there was a switch which was due to anti abortion resonating and filling the coffers. The coffers rule. And, true to what we find about MAGAs, if you confront them about this they deny it, and the effect is they become even more adamant anti abortionists. The Catholic Church was anti abortion all along. When I was in Texas I'd see bumper stickers saying that in case of rapture this pick up may be unmanned. It comes across as a doomsday cult. They morphed, picked up King Cyrus as being helpful in the past and - Lo and Behold! - Trump became King Cyrus returned, to lead the Israelis to rebuild the Temple and bring about the rapture, when Jesus returns to earth and they fly up in the sky and the rest of us are tortured and go to hell.
And they vote as a block, just like Iglesia ni Cristo in the Philippines, so you need to remain anti abortion in order to get that block of votes. Same in the USA. Now we have this bad quilt pattern of states not allowing abortion so you have to travel halfway across the US to get one. And then they make laws that if you're pregnant and travel to get an abortion you have committed murder and are due prison time, and anyone who helped you gets prison time. And we can't return to sanity on the subject, but I do ask them what happened to all the priests that recommended abortions when they met God in heaven? Are they all in hell, or did they get a pass?
In the meantime can we get federal property OK for abortions, rent it to an abortion clinic on federal land, and make it so that no one goes to jail, and - women are allowed to have better lives? Do we have to be nuts about this?
No. of Recommendations: 5
t you are not pro-life if you are pro-death penalty.
And I'm against the death penalty. Not that I don't recognize that the state has the right to meet that out as part of justice, but because we are so bad at it and deep in my gut I know we've killed innocent people.
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occur amongst poor minorities, thus culling the herd.
Sounds like you're appealing to racists marco.
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Sounds like you don't care about poor minority fetuses.
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Sounds like you don't care about poor minority fetuses.
Horseshit
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I know you care about road apples more than poor minority fetuses, wbaloney.
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Sounds like you don't care about poor minority fetuses.
Oh. You're sensitive about your racism?
