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Author: WEBspired 🐝  😊 😞
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Subject: Take Early Non-Roth distributions?
Date: 01/15/26 12:03 AM
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A good friend sent me this initial advice from his advisor:

“My financial advisor told me recently that once you hit 60yo, you may want to start taking small distributions out of IRA each year because the value has grown to a significant size that if you wait to withdraw at 75yo, when we trigger RMDs, the amount you’d be taking out every year would be very large and place one in a higher tax bracket with many non-optimal consequences. High Fed/state taxes, IRMAA tax, and taxes on social security benefits. Advisor said managing that IRA account can be important. Some Roth conversions may help, but not be the complete answer.”

Any thoughts on this advice and commentary, as we will pass the >59 1/2yo age requirement later this year. We’ve been mainly funding our everyday life expenses by selling equities from brokerage accounts & having long-term capital gains. Hoping to stay at the <=24% tax bracket as a married couple filing together. Many Thanks for any thoughts & commentary & realize a fee-only advisor session may be money well spent.
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Author: InParadise   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Take Early Non-Roth distributions?
Date: 01/15/26 7:04 AM
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“My financial advisor told me recently that once you hit 60yo, you may want to start taking small distributions out of IRA each year because the value has grown to a significant size that if you wait to withdraw at 75yo, when we trigger RMDs, the amount you’d be taking out every year would be very large and place one in a higher tax bracket with many non-optimal consequences.

I confess we went through this "anxiety" also. It's a decent anxiety to have, relative to other problems. In hindsight, we got here by not paying attention to the cautions issued on the old Fool, when TIRAs became a thing and some folks suggested you would do better just by investing in stocks buy and hold style in taxable accounts than doing tax deferred IRAs. Because of the old ways TIRAs could be inherited, we were not concerned about eventual taxes, figuring our boys would just inherit and take RMDs, and we maxed out our IRAs and 401Ks annually. The new inherited IRA rules gave us problems with that, particularly as our 30 year old makes more now than DH did at the end of his career, and being single, is taxed much higher than we are.

We have done Roth conversions for several years, having transferred enough money to the Roth for the boys to inherit tax free. It's a nice nest egg, but because our investments have done well the TIRA/401K balances have grown even larger than before the conversions, and we have incurred higher costs for things like health insurance, both in terms of DH's Medicare and my not being eligible for ACA subsidies. Again, there are worse problems to have.

We stopped doing Roth conversions in 2025, not really wanting to give the current gov't more mad money. Should our RMDs get too large, we will do QCDs and donate up to the allowed amount to charity, which is $115K/pp max in 2026. Currently, part of that can also go towards a charitable annuity that you can benefit from, but it is a small and may be a one time thing. Here's Schwab's blurb on QCDs: https://www.schwab.com/learn/story/reducing-rmds-w.... We will probably also make the beneficiaries of the TIRAs charities. Our offspring only need so much. Frankly it surprised me a bit how well we have done through simple LBYM and investing the extra. We never expected to be able to provide more of an inheritance for the kids than their college education, and have always fully funded their Roths while they take care of their 401Ks. It's a pretty small annual thing to do that started out as a way to get them interested in investing, by having actual seed money in a Roth to grow, but no longer so small a legacy that may help them also retire early some day.

Unless you need cash to support you in retirement, I fail to see how taking funds out of the TIRA is better than simply doing a Roth conversion with those funds. Am always happy to be educated though. In hindsight, I clearly could have invested for retirement more efficiently.

IP

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Author: InParadise   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Take Early Non-Roth distributions?
Date: 01/15/26 7:17 AM
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And, by the way, you should do your calculations to see how much control you will have over taxes in retirement. Take current IRA balances and extrapolate the value out to reflect compounding until age of RMDs. Look up the amount the RMDs will be from a RMD calculator. Add the RMD to all other anticipated retirement income, including SS and pensions, dividends and interest. For us, we found that at a minimum we would be in the 28% tax bracket, based on 2017 tax law, which was what we anticipated for 2026 prior to the Trump taxes being made "permanent." That guided us to take our annual income up to the 25% tax bracket via Roth contributions, a level we felt reasonably safe in assuming we would be taxed over in retirement.

The only thing I remain certain of is that tax law will change, and likely not for the better.

FWIW,

IP
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Author: WEBspired 🐝  😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Take Early Non-Roth distributions?
Date: 01/15/26 8:52 AM
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Thanks IP for your thoughtful response & the QCD info. We are wired the same way it appears. I did 3 additional large conversions upon retirement over 3 years, last one being 2024. My Rollover IRA is managed via SMA (they are doing well) and that also makes it more awkward and less tempting to withdraw those funds earlier than necessary. Funny, it’s 50/50 wrt ratio of my Roth IRA/Rollover IRA assets. Fortunately, could be a lot of worse problems to figure out. Did you sit down with an advisor or just research it in your own wrt these decisions?
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Author: InParadise   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Take Early Non-Roth distributions?
Date: 01/15/26 10:06 AM
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Funny, it’s 50/50 wrt ratio of my Roth IRA/Rollover IRA assets. Fortunately, could be a lot of worse problems to figure out. Did you sit down with an advisor or just research it in your own wrt these decisions?

We are a bit older than you, so Roths were available less quickly and our TIRA/401K are larger than Roth funds, even after conversions.

Did you sit down with an advisor or just research it in your own wrt these decisions?

I sat down and figured it out, and then had to convince the Financial Advisor we had at the time that I was right, when he insisted we shouldn't do the conversions. It wasn't the first time I proved him wrong, but it was the last time I had to do so. I am self-taught when it comes to investing, so DH wanted to pay someone with an alphabet soup after his name to handle our investments. Waste of money.

It was almost humorous when we pulled all of our funds from the FA. He basically wailed over the phone that "People don't leave me!" He spent more time and effort on marketing his brand than keeping up on the best strategies or monitoring our accounts. He came highly recommended from people who knew nothing. Go UBS.

I should have stuck to my guns after the second meeting, where after looking at our assets early retirement was proclaimed impossible, only for the FA to again agree with me when I pulled out my spreadsheets. We retired at 54 and 58, only because DH was not mentally ready at 55.

IP
a strong LBYM couple, not fitting the standard rule of thumb needed retirement income calculation of 70-80% pre-retirement income
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