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Author: Dope1   😊 😞
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Subject: Biden's Ukraine as VP was for $$$, say...
Date: 04/14/2023 2:25 PM
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...the Obama administration's former stenographer.

Interesting.

https://www.foxnews.com/media/ex-obama-staffer-blo...

In February, I went to the FBI and filed one of their tips on their website. If you do that, and you're lying to them, you go to jail. I'm not lying. I'm telling the truth, and I'm not going to jail," McCormick said Thursday. "Joe Biden is a criminal. He was conducting malfeasance in office to enrich his family. Jake Sullivan is a conspirator in that, and there's more... Obama officials involved in it, I believe."

This part isn't really new:
"I'm sitting back there with a tape recorder. Jake Sullivan comes back and somebody asks about fracking. His answer is, well, we're bringing a lot of American assistance over for fracking. Burisma was the direct beneficiary of that fracking, and that's what I recorded, and that's in a White House transcript," McCormick said.

"In the transcript, you don't know who Jake Sullivan is. It's a senior administration official. I'm the witness that says Jake Sullivan is the guy who said it and he should be investigated because at the time Hunter Biden was on the board of Burisma and Joe Biden is bringing American taxpayer money to enrich that company and himself and his family," he continued.


...as astute observers of the news have known for years that Hunter Biden's Burisma ties were to get to his father and nothing else.

Better put this guy on Epstein Watch. Especially before he talks to the grand jury!
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Author: commonone 🐝 HONORARY
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Subject: Re: Biden's Ukraine as VP was for $$$, say...
Date: 04/14/2023 3:02 PM
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Dope1: ...the Obama administration's former stenographer.

Interesting.



So, there was a republican-led Senate investigation of Joe Biden and his work in Ukraine as vice president chaired by Sen. Ron Johnson, a close ally of President Donald Trump's, and the only witness the Homeland Security Committee called was Amos Hochstein who had discussed Burisma with Biden during his vice presidency.

Hochstein has told associates that he never changed U.S. policy because of Burisma and was never asked to do so and that Burisma never factored into any policy decisions around energy or Biden's advocacy for a new Ukrainian prosecutor general.

In fact, according to a former Obama administration official, Hochstein has told colleagues that the Obama administration sought to punish Burisma rather than protect it.


So where was McCormick during the entire Trump administration or during the 2020 presidential campaign?


Dope1: ...as astute observers of the news have known for years that Hunter Biden's Burisma ties were to get to his father and nothing else.

This has been addressed a million times. If influence peddling was illegal, the entire Trump brood would be behind bars along with dozens -- hundreds, thousands -- of relatives of former administration spouses, children, and in-laws from both political parties.


Dope1: Better put this guy on Epstein Watch. Especially before he talks to the grand jury!

Refresh our memories. Who was president -- and best buddy of Epstein -- when Epstein was in prison? And who was AG then?

Fat Don and Fat Bill.


https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/meet-the-press/bl...
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Author: Dope1   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Biden's Ukraine as VP was for $$$, say...
Date: 04/14/2023 3:53 PM
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So, there was a republican-led Senate investigation of Joe Biden and his work in Ukraine as vice president chaired by Sen. Ron Johnson, a close ally of President Donald Trump's

Lookit. An attempt at Poisoning the Well: http://www.fallacyfiles.org/poiswell.html
To poison the well is to commit a pre-emptive ad hominem strike against an argumentative opponent. As with regular ad hominems, the well may be poisoned in either an abusive or circumstantial way.

You went for the circumstantial path. That's needed to signal to your audience here that they can relax.

Hochstein has told associates that he never changed U.S. policy because of Burisma and was never asked to do so and that Burisma never factored into any policy decisions around energy or Biden's advocacy for a new Ukrainian prosecutor general.

Hmm. That's a convenient thing to say, but not really relevant to the point: Hunter Biden say on the board of Burisma despite having zero experience in energy. The minute he joined the board, though, Joe was a on plane:

https://nypost.com/2023/04/11/ex-biden-stenographe...
Then-Vice President Joe Biden visited Ukraine on a mission to bolster the country's energy industry days after his son Hunter joined the board of natural gas company Burisma in 2014

Huh. How about that. Wonder what they were going to say?
https://obamawhitehouse.archives.gov/the-press-off...
He will speak about both the short- and long-term energy situation in Ukraine. As he arrives, there will also be a team on the ground from the United States, a team of experts working on the reverse flow issue. That team will be in Kyiv and then will travel also to Slovakia, Poland and Hungary to help address the issue of reversing the flow of natural gas to provide Ukraine with some measure of short-term supply of natural gas as they look to replenish their stores.

But also he'll discuss with them medium- and long-term strategies to boost conventional gas production, and also to begin to take advantage of the unconventional gas reserves that are in Ukraine.


Interesting. Tell me more!
Q Are you talking about --

SENIOR ADMINISTRATION OFFICIAL: Yes.

Q -- beyond economic assistance?

SENIOR ADMINISTRATION OFFICIAL: Well, there's a package of economic and energy and governance assistance that he'll be discussing. And we, as you saw, just recently announced a latest tranche of security assistance, nonlethal security assistance. And he'll have the opportunity to speak with the government about what more is needed and what more we could provide in the period ahead.

Q So there's a package that includes economic, energy and discussion of further security assistance. Is that right?

SENIOR ADMINISTRATION OFFICIAL: Well, the package I'm describing includes economic, energy and governance assistance.


Hmm. Wonder if there's any conflict of interest between having Hunter on the board and Joe discussing "packages" to assist with "unconventional gas reserves" in the Ukraine.

I seem to recall a 3 word phrase in Latin that the left was fond of not too long ago...

This guy definitely needs to be on the Epstein watch. BTW, the answer to your question is that Epstein's best buddy was Bill Clinton. He certainly flew on the Lolita Express a number of times. When are you going to denounce those flights and what he was doing on them?
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Author: Dope1   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Biden's Ukraine as VP was for $$$, say...
Date: 04/14/2023 3:55 PM
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And this part is really ironic:
Q The economic assistance, does that mean money?

SENIOR ADMINISTRATION OFFICIAL: I think the biggest piece of business beyond the $1 billion loan guarantee and bringing to closure the IMF and helping also to shepherd the European money will be teams that we can put on the ground to help ensure that that money is allocated in an effective way.


$1 billion in loans, and 'shepherd'ing the money right back to The Big Guy, all right.
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Author: sano 🐝  😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Biden's Ukraine as VP was for $$$, say...
Date: 04/14/2023 6:16 PM
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Amended that for ya with the same degree of stupidity as the original: This guy definitely needs to be on the Epstein watch. BTW, the answer to your question is that Epstein's best buddy was Trump. He certainly flew on the Lolita Express a number of times. When are you going to denounce those flights and what he was doing on them?

Gosh, such a pithy insight!

Meme o' the day: https://i.imgflip.com/38sk5j.jpg
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Author: commonone 🐝 HONORARY
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Subject: Re: Biden's Ukraine as VP was for $$$, say...
Date: 04/14/2023 7:09 PM
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Dope1: https://nypost.com/2023/04/11/ex-biden-stenographe...
Then-Vice President Joe Biden visited Ukraine on a mission to bolster the country's energy industry days after his son Hunter joined the board of natural gas company Burisma in 2014


The New York Post? Such outstanding journalism: "McCormick says he suspects..." and "He also speculates..." Sheesh.

Funny, I don't see a single claim from the New York Post article that Burisma received squat at the direction of Biden.

The Senate investigated and found nothing:

But an 87-page report summing up the findings, released jointly on Wednesday by the Senate Homeland Security and Finance Committees, contained no evidence that the elder Mr. Biden improperly manipulated American policy toward Ukraine or committed any other misdeed. In fact, investigators heard witness testimony that rebutted those charges.


Dope1: Wonder if there's any conflict of interest between having Hunter on the board and Joe discussing "packages" to assist with "unconventional gas reserves" in the Ukraine.

Gotta' do more than 'wonder'. After four years controlling the wheels of government, Trump came up with nothing.

Huh.

Trump did eventually try to extort Ukraine into announcing an investigation into the Bidens in exchange for military assistance, getting him impeached.


Dope1: This guy definitely needs to be on the Epstein watch. BTW, the answer to your question is that Epstein's best buddy was Bill Clinton. He certainly flew on the Lolita Express a number of times. When are you going to denounce those flights and what he was doing on them?

Now look who's Poisoning the Well.

Tell you what, I'll condemn Clinton. How about you condemning Trump. He flew on the Lolita Express too.


https://www.nytimes.com/2020/09/23/us/politics/bid...

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/...
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Author: Dope1   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Biden's Ukraine as VP was for $$$, say...
Date: 04/14/2023 8:00 PM
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The New York Post? Such outstanding j

And there's the Poisoning the Well fallacy again. Can't you for being original's sake try out a different one instead of using the same playbook every time?
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Author: sano 🐝  😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Biden's Ukraine as VP was for $$$, say...
Date: 04/15/2023 12:03 AM
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The New York Post? Such outstanding j
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And there's the Poisoning the Well fallacy again.


It's not poisoning the well if it's true; and it's true that the NYPost is crap, as are your constant attempts to gaslight honest posters.
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