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In March 2025, in the thread "Re: OT, out", Umm asked the members: "Do you think it is because America is made up of magical soil that makes businesses based in America magically profitable?" This week it is put to everyone again. The button below opens the small thread re-asking it - read what others have said so far, then give your own answer as an ordinary reply.
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Author: albaby1 ✶❂🐝 GOLD
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Subject: Re: TSLA
Date: 12/29/22 7:37 AM
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Full self-driving is still some time off, but it seems likely that Tesla will get there first, there too, and if and when they do, that will have a huge impact on their sales.

I think that's probably wrong. But it depends on how you define full self-driving.

I think that both Cruise and Waymo will get to widely deployed Level 4 full self-driving long before Tesla does. They're already doing so now, in very limited fashion. However, it will be TaaS, carefully monitored, and geofenced. They'll get the autonomous robo-taxis to market years before the 'Tesla Network' could ever come online - which will blow open the door for consumer sales of Level 4 vehicles, which most people will (rightly) regard as self-driving.

Tesla's aiming for Level 5 or bust. They might be the first to Level 5 - but I think that's years away. By the time they get there, there will be self-driving robotaxis available in a fairly large number of U.S. metros, which will make it difficult for Tesla to get permission to just 'turn on' a Level 5 system in a million cars without any regulator-reviewed test mileage.

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