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Author: WiltonKnight   😊 😞
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Subject: Dope1 c'mon stop it
Date: 10/31/2024 11:11 AM
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Dope1 it seems they are going personal on you lately - what did you do to them?

I'm jealous, I prefer being in their hate spotlight and them showing I've made them neurotic.

Ok fine if I have to share that, I'm happy it's with you.
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Author: Dope1   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Dope1 c'mon stop it
Date: 10/31/2024 11:29 AM
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Dope1 it seems they are going personal on you lately - what did you do to them?

I'm jealous, I prefer being in their hate spotlight and them showing I've made them neurotic.

Ok fine if I have to share that, I'm happy it's with you.


It's amazing. They're about to win a Presidential Election, you'd think they'd be happy.

Despite the closeness in the polls I still think Harris wins.
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Author: WiltonKnight   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Dope1 c'mon stop it
Date: 10/31/2024 12:28 PM
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Despite the closeness in the polls I still think Harris wins.
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I'm not plugged in like before so I don't feel confident in my knowledge on polls - the polling companies - who is using what method. I used to be full geek and I remember calling W/Kerry's electors and popular vote 8 months before that election. I used to love the game that much.

What experience I have as an armchair political wannabe: It "feels" like it's going to Trump. While Club 401K and the investor class see an feel the good economy, they are so woefully out of touch with a majority of the country who - right or wrong - feels that things SUCK. Perception is reality. So on that - inflation and immigration I 'feel' it's going Trump. Some of the polls are showing that.


Reasons I agree with you on Harris win:

1.)Organization. We have Trump and his Tweets and rallies.

SHE is owned by entities that are smart : Pelosi, Obama, Schumer, Cheney, Bush. Goldman Sachs. Big Defense and other elements of military-industrial complex. I *gotta* believe her leash-holder's ground game and get out the vote is better. Heck both sides are texting and doing the CRM software bullshit but from what I've seen - Dems are targeting better.

2.)Abortion

Whether we agree or not - the threat of abortion bans, Roe overturned has created a HUGE motivation for all sorts of women. That came out in 2022...and I fear it will in 2024.


3.)Only 10% sure of this one. REVERSE-REVERSE BRADLEY EFFECT?

Some would tell pollsters "Biden" or "Hillary" and then secretly vote Trump. They were scared to be called racist. Or felt guilty for voting Trump and this has always helped trump BUT.......


Between Abortion bans. "let's take away ObamaCare" Social Security, Medicare.....I wonder, are there people who DESPISE Liberalism as a brand-name, and can't stand Harris---but feel like she will protect their interests while Republicans will butcher them? I'll point to myself as an example:

Was a 2%'er for a good part of my life - I am not any longer but hey, whatever, still blessed and feel like I live well. I am scared of ObamaCare getting screwed with and I really prefer Social Security not be cut. I planned - I think on 20% CUT as part of my financial plan but man - if it is cut less or not at all? I'd just love that. Medicare? I want it well funded. I want to have good doctor and hospital choices down the road. School funding. Special end funding - important to me.

BUT "brand name" I've been a Reagan guy since grade school and Conservative as an adult. I can't STAND the "blame America" "America sucks" mentality on the Left. Kamala Harris? What a lightweight and represents segments of culture I can't stand. SO..... I used "I'm not gonna vote" as a mechanism to where I'm not ashamed of voting Harris - but at least not cutting my throat with Trump. It's only the Smug Snob 401K'ers here that make me want Trump to win - well - that and The Euro Trash across the pond and not wanting nuclear war.

If a pollster called me - I'd say "Trump" whether I meant it or not.. I wonder if there's people out there who are with us on so many things - but are honestly worried about doctor access, abortion access, social security cuts, etc. Are they ashamed to say HARRIS - but secretly- they'll vote Harris and then do locker-room-talk and tell their social circle they voted Trump?

Again this one is outlandish even for me -----but I can't reject it totally.

All I know is that IF despite this Trump wins - the Left needs to go Bill Maher ---and Bill Clinton - like, now. As in now. Or we're going to be run by the likes of Boebery and Greene - ignorant people for a decade to come.

Kemp, Sununu, Shapiro, Beshear - there's people out there for later when this smoke clears.

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Author: onepoorguy 🐝  😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Dope1 c'mon stop it
Date: 10/31/2024 12:48 PM
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Despite the closeness in the polls I still think Harris wins.

Out of curiosity, why?

Speaking for myself, I think it's too close to call. I would prefer Harris, but I have no idea whom will prevail. If you do, I'm curious how.
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Author: ptheland 🐝  😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Dope1 c'mon stop it
Date: 10/31/2024 1:02 PM
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Despite the closeness in the polls I still think Harris wins.

That’s interesting. I’m preparing myself for a Trump win because the polls are so close.

—Peter
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Author: Dope1   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Dope1 c'mon stop it
Date: 10/31/2024 1:20 PM
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I'm not plugged in like before so I don't feel confident in my knowledge on polls - the polling companies - who is using what method. I used to be full geek and I remember calling W/Kerry's electors and popular vote 8 months before that election. I used to love the game that much.

What experience I have as an armchair political wannabe: It "feels" like it's going to Trump. While Club 401K and the investor class see an feel the good economy, they are so woefully out of touch with a majority of the country who - right or wrong - feels that things SUCK. Perception is reality. So on that - inflation and immigration I 'feel' it's going Trump. Some of the polls are showing that.


Agree that Trump has the momentum; I figured once people started listening to Harris actually speak they'd remember why her first Presidential campaign was effectively stillborn: she's really bad at this. They tried the Biden Basement Strategy on her but played that out so long that even left wing media started calling her out for hiding...and then when they let her talk to even friendly outlets...she bombed. 60 Minutes still won't release the transcript of her interview them, to highlight one example.

I don't know what to think on the polls. You'd assume that after getting Trump's support so wrong in 2016 and again in 2020 they'd have fixed it by now and thus the race would appear to be razor tight. As it stands now if Trump gets PA, NC and GA it's over - that's 270 right there. I don't know. Conventional wisdom suggests that undecideds break toward the incumbent, and that's Harris.

1.)Organization.
2.)Abortion


Don't know about your state, but every 5 minutes - I'm not kidding - there is an abortion ad here in Washington. They're really leaning in on it to a degree I've never seen. Now, never mind that it's a state issue now and that democrats hold near supermajorities in both houses of the state legislature, they're claiming that Trump and a Republican governor would ban abortions.

The sad thing is, women are buying it.

I am scared of ObamaCare getting screwed with and I really prefer Social Security not be cut. I planned - I think on 20% CUT as part of my financial plan but man - if it is cut less or not at all? I'd just love that. Medicare? I want it well funded. I want to have good doctor and hospital choices down the road. School funding. Special end funding - important to me.

The GOP isn't going to touch either program for one simple reason: their voters skew either very young or very old and they're not going to touch things that might hurt the very old. So no cuts. Won't stop the little d's from claiming they will, though.

All I know is that IF despite this Trump wins - the Left needs to go Bill Maher ---and Bill Clinton - like, now. As in now. Or we're going to be run by the likes of Boebery and Greene - ignorant people for a decade to come.

Kemp, Sununu, Shapiro, Beshear - there's people out there for later when this smoke clears.


If the dems didn't have such an obvious problem with da Joos they'd have Shapiro on the ballot and would have this locked up already. Shapiro would have locked up Pennsylvania early, delivered Wisconsin and Nevada, and made Arizona really close. Then it wouldn't matter if she lost all of Michigan, Georgia and North Carolina because she'd have been at 272 with just PA, NV and AZ.

But, nope...then went with Tampon Tim.

I do think for the first time in 20 years the democrats are starting to generate a bench of candidates again IF they're smart enough to start rejecting a lot of what the Coastal Elite says and does.
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Subject: Re: Dope1 c'mon stop it
Date: 10/31/2024 1:37 PM
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But, nope...then went with Tampon Tim.

I do think for the first time in 20 years the democrats are starting to generate a bench of candidates again IF they're smart enough to start rejecting a lot of what the Coastal Elite says and does.


I think a big part of the reason that Harris went with Walz is because he isn't Coastal Elite. Midwest guy, rather than Georgetown-educated Philly lawyer.
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Author: WiltonKnight   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Dope1 c'mon stop it
Date: 10/31/2024 1:45 PM
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I think a big part of the reason that Harris went with Walz is because he isn't Coastal Elite. Midwest guy, rather than Georgetown-educated Philly lawyer.
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Yep, tampons in boys room and Georgetown lawyer.

He's a midwestern every-man.
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Author: ptheland 🐝  😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Dope1 c'mon stop it
Date: 10/31/2024 2:28 PM
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Thank you for finally posting a coherent commentary on your positions. I'm not going to pretend I agree with you, but you have given actual positions with actual reasoning.

If you could do that more often, we could have reasonable discussions between left and right where both might learn something. Dope started to come out from behind his one-line zingers as well in his conversation with albaby.

Both are signs of progress toward civil discussion instead of the silly bickering that seems to have become the standard form of communication.

Perhaps there IS hope for the future.

--Peter
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Author: onepoorguy 🐝  😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Dope1 c'mon stop it
Date: 10/31/2024 4:56 PM
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Am I alone in my thinking that I mostly consider the VP as a reflection of the choices made by the POTUS candidate?

For example...I was mostly a McCain guy in 2007. Didn't agree with him on everything, but then I never do. Never heard of Obama. I wanted to learn about him, and I did. But McCain did two things that really jarred me. First, he started talking about church and god a lot. He had never done that before. Second, he chose Palin as his running mate. It took less than two minutes of hearing her speak before I knew she was a blithering idiot, and therefore I questioned McCain's judgment.

With Walz, I don't care where he's from. Yes, his history is very "folksy" (high school coach, etc). But he doesn't seem to be a blithering idiot, and he doesn't say outrageously stupid things. Whether he went to Yale or KU, doesn't really matter to me. He was a good choice to me because he didn't make me question Kamala's judgment, unlike Palin and McCain.

I never voted for McCain again for any office.
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