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Hey, if the UK and Canada want to be #woke and stupid, then let's let them.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15118203/...Keir Starmer's controversial decision to recognise a state of Palestine could lead to demands for the UK to pay more than £2 trillion in reparations to the country, legal experts have said.lol.
Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas, who has a long history of threatening to sue Britain, is demanding 'reparations in accordance with international law' based on the value of the land which was under British rule between 1917 and 1948.
Some international law experts have described £2 trillion, roughly the size of Britain's total economy, as a 'good place to start'.If the UK wants to abandon all good sense and essentially trash the international order (by rewarding terrorism), then let them pay up.
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All Europeans need to be held accountable for the rape of the world ----which is WAAAAAAY more than America has ever done.
Brits, Frenchb everybody.
They need to pay financially.
Culturally...keep colonizing their asses from withing.
And, well, if they are made to pay in other ways i just take the Liberal examples after 9-11:
"Religion of Peace"
"Europe, ask, why do they hate you"
"Win their hearts and minds"
I'm neutral on methods. I'm not a judgemental Good Vs Evil Bush Americans. Everything isn't black and white.
From Paris to London to Berlin ...I so so agree.
"Boom"----someone's gonna win. LOL
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demanding 'reparations in accordance with international law' based on the value of the land which was under British rule between 1917 and 1948.
Some international law experts have described £2 trillion, roughly the size of Britain's total economy, as a 'good place to start'.
Israel gets it all--as a down payment on the massively larger debt the Palestinians owe to Israel for (say) 2000 yrs of depriving the Israelis of their land. Once you get past 15-18 digits (all to the left of the decimal, of course), Israel WILL OWN all the land "from the river to the sea". So, be careful for what you ask, it CAN come back and bite you big time.
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Israel gets it all--as a down payment on the massively larger debt the Palestinians owe to Israel for (say) 2000 yrs of depriving the Israelis of their land.
Have we ever determined (or can we) who "owns" the land? Both people are indigenous to the region, as far as I can tell. That's sort of why they've been fighting on and off for who-knows-how-long.
Not a lawyer, but I doubt the reparations thing will fly. Otherwise the US would have been on the hook for reparations for stealing the native lands of the "indians". We recognize the present lands (reservations) as semi-autonomous and sovereign. That doesn't count?
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That doesn't count?
No. What "counts" is the "lost opportunity" possibilities of the *entire* area--including the "appropriated/stolen" land/water/etc.
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Have we ever determined (or can we) who "owns" the land?
iirc, after moving from Egypt, the Hebrews took what they are pleased to call "their" land, from the people who were already living there, by force. Can't recall right now the town where they put everyone to the sword, regardless of age or gender.
Ah, the Google net sifter to the rescue:
The biblical account of Jericho (Joshua 6) includes the following elements:
The Israelites, led by Joshua, marched around the city once a day for six days.
On the seventh day, they marched around the city seven times.
The city's walls collapsed after the priests blew their trumpets and the people shouted.
The Israelites then entered and "destroyed with the sword every living thing in it—men and women, young and old, cattle, sheep and donkeys".
Rahab and her family were spared because she had hidden the Israelite spies sent to scout the city.
Steve
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The Hebrews were never in Egypt. At least not in any quantity. The Book of Exodus is wrong. Israeli archeologists have pretty much settled that question. Which is ironic given that they were supposed to -as I heard it put- "find the deeds to the land". Instead, they showed the flight from Egypt didn't happen, and the slaughter of the Canaanites didn't happen (turns out the Canaanites and Israelites are one and the same).
Other than when they were removed by the Babylonians, they appear to have been there for millenia. The Palestinian history is a little less clear to me, but I believe they've been there comparably long.
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Instead, they showed the flight from Egypt didn't happen, and the slaughter of the Canaanites didn't happen (turns out the Canaanites and Israelites are one and the same).
So...recent interpretations of archeological findings show centuries old written history is wrong, and the Jews are, really and truly, the first inhabitants, thus "entitled" to all the land they survey? How convenient.
Does anyone think that Shinyland is the only place with a government that wants to manipulate facts to fit it's current agenda?
Steve...HBTT
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So...recent interpretations of archeological findings show centuries old written history is wrong, and the Jews are, really and truly, the first inhabitants, thus "entitled" to all the land they survey?
That's not precisely what they found. They were tasked with finding the titles to the land, in effect. They didn't. They found most of the mythology was exactly that: mythology. They do not have a preeminent claim over all others. They were a tribe in that region, like many others. Who has the oldest claim? To my knowledge, that wasn't settled. But we know there were no significant numbers of Hebrew slaves in Egypt, at least not during the Kingdom indicated in the story. So no exodus.
They didn't find what the Israeli government wanted them to find. They wanted verification of their fables, but those were no forthcoming.
