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In March 2025, in the thread "Re: OT, out", Umm asked the members: "Do you think it is because America is made up of magical soil that makes businesses based in America magically profitable?" This week it is put to everyone again. The button below opens the small thread re-asking it - read what others have said so far, then give your own answer as an ordinary reply.
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Author: lizgdal ✶☼  😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Is Morningstar dishonest?
Date: 12/18/25 2:39 PM
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Dividing into 5 buckets based on CAEYb, from 1881.01 to 2025.12 the average subsequent stock returns were:

qCAEYb  Count  AvgCAEYb  Avg10yrStockSR  Avg5yrStockSR  Avg3yrStockSR  Avg1yrStockSR  Avg 10yrExcessSR  Avg 5yrExcessSR  Avg 3yrExcessSR  Avg 1yrExcessSR  StdDev 1yrExcessSR
0 348 4.9% 2.2% 1.4% 0.6% 0.4% 1.0% -0.7% -1.8% -0.5% 19%
1 348 6.0% 6.4% 6.8% 6.0% 6.1% 4.2% 3.8% 3.5% 3.5% 16%
2 348 7.0% 5.6% 7.1% 8.3% 10.7% 3.7% 5.1% 5.6% 7.0% 20%
3 348 8.5% 8.2% 6.4% 8.1% 9.4% 7.5% 6.7% 8.3% 8.1% 18%
4 348 12.0% 10.9% 13.1% 12.8% 15.3% 6.8% 9.5% 9.4% 12.3% 22%

correl 1.00 0.93 0.91 0.91 0.90 0.81 0.93 0.87 0.95


Avg10yrStockSR is the average 10-year subsequent real stock total return (adjusted for inflation).

Avg 1yrExcessSR is the average 1-year subsequent real stock total return minus the real 1-year total return of 10-year bonds.

correl is the correlation with AvgCAEYb.


Low CAEYb had lower forward 1-year excess returns. The dates with low CAEYb (qCAEYb=0) can be summarized as:

  From     To     numMonths  Avg1yrExcessSR  StDev1yrExcessSR
1881.01 1906.11 120 1% 16%
1927.11 1937.08 56 -10% 33%
1955.07 1973.02 134 2% 12%
1987.08 1987.08 1 -22%
1997.07 2000.1 36 -1% 20%



High CAEYb had higher forward 1-year excess returns. The dates with high CAEYb (qCAEYb=4)can be summarized as:

  From     To     numMonths  Avg1yrExcessSR  StDev1yrExcessSR
1907.11 1907.11 1 45%
1914.08 1926.05 113 9% 17%
1931.12 1935.03 18 46% 49%
1941.12 1943.01 14 34% 13%
1948.01 1950.07 19 22% 11%
1974.07 1985.1 114 6% 15%
2002.09 2003.04 8 24% 7%
2008.03 2013.06 61 10% 22%

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