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Author: commonone 🐝 HONORARY
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Subject: Hey albaby1, why would Trump...
Date: 08/24/2023 7:44 PM
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...use a bail bonding company?
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Author: WatchingTheHerd HONORARY
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Subject: Re: Hey albaby1, why would Trump...
Date: 08/24/2023 9:25 PM
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I'm gonna guess and see how close to the pin I get...

I suspect a defendant posting bail in the state of Georgia must do so through a bail bonds firm because on average, the state / county does not want to spend resources chasing every person that jumps bail and doesn't return to court as required. Involving a bail bond firm then requires THAT firm to track you down and gives them a hefty financial incentive for re-capturing you. Therefore, if you have to post bail, you have to use a bail bond firm and that firm has to be licensed to operate in Georgia.

In theory, it isn't because Trump doesn't have $200,000. In reality, he only had to post $20,000.

I do hope the bail bondsman counted the money, though.


WTH
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Author: bighairymike   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Hey albaby1, why would Trump...
Date: 08/24/2023 10:08 PM
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I suspect a defendant posting bail in the state of Georgia must do so through a bail bonds firm because on average, the state / county does not want to spend resources chasing every person that jumps bail and doesn't return to court as required. - wth

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Compulsory use of a bondsman does not sound like it would be legal. We need Albaby to render a decision.
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Author: Lapsody 🐝  😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Hey albaby1, why would Trump...
Date: 08/24/2023 11:44 PM
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Involving a bail bond firm then requires THAT firm to track you down

Dog the bounty hunter tracks down Trump and brings him in. Let's have Stephen King write it. :)
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Author: albaby1 🐝 HONORARY
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Subject: Re: Hey albaby1, why would Trump...
Date: 08/25/2023 9:33 AM
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Compulsory use of a bondsman does not sound like it would be legal. We need Albaby to render a decision.

Caveat - I am not a criminal lawyer, so I have no real visibility into the mechanics of posting bail.

I'm quite sure that a defendant in GA would always have the option of just posting the amount of the bond in cash without using an intermediary. But it may indeed be the case that if you're going to post a bond for compensation on behalf of a third party, you might need to have a license.

Though if I had to guess, I would lean more towards administrative convenience than anything else. Posting a surety bond probably involves forms and procedure and whatnot, both to post it and to recover the bond once the trial is over. It's probably just easier to use a company that's in the business of doing that. A bond company's going to know how to do it with no learning curve - why bother reinventing the wheel?
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Subject: Re: Hey albaby1, why would Trump...
Date: 08/25/2023 12:59 PM
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I think if Trump can get someone to loan him money, he will. And then he won't pay it back. What's "Dog the Bounty Hunter" going to do? Take on the Secret Service? He'd lose.
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Author: albaby1 🐝 HONORARY
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Subject: Re: Hey albaby1, why would Trump...
Date: 08/25/2023 1:23 PM
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I think if Trump can get someone to loan him money, he will. And then he won't pay it back. What's "Dog the Bounty Hunter" going to do? Take on the Secret Service? He'd lose.

Again, I am not a criminal lawyer. But I don't think bail bonds work that way. The bond is provided to the government, not the defendant, so Trump has no financial interest (from the bond) in violating the terms of his pre-trial release.

Hard to see a realistic risk that Trump won't show up for his trial (if it gets to trial). Secret Service cuts both ways - a "Dog the Bounty Hunter" can't get to Donald Trump, but it means that the federal government always knows where he is. Which means that if a Georgia law enforcement officer is told to serve an arrest warrant because DJT didn't show up for a required court appearance, it won't be hard for them to find him. And I doubt very much that the Secret Service will physically prevent a duly-authorized state law enforcement officer from arresting the President. Which is why it's pretty unlikely that Trump won't show up for his required court appearances.
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Author: onepoorguy 🐝  😊 😞
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Date: 08/25/2023 1:51 PM
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I was being slightly facetious. Though, it is effectively a loan. Trump doesn't have to put up the cash, the bondsman does.

An interesting question would be "what if Trump doesn't want to show up"? Would the Secret Service compel him against his will? In the extreme, what if Trump wants to fly somewhere with no extradition? Again, would Secret Service prevent that?

Though I suspect he will show up. Just curious about the "what if".
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Author: albaby1 🐝 HONORARY
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Subject: Re: Hey albaby1, why would Trump...
Date: 08/25/2023 2:06 PM
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An interesting question would be "what if Trump doesn't want to show up"? Would the Secret Service compel him against his will? In the extreme, what if Trump wants to fly somewhere with no extradition? Again, would Secret Service prevent that?

I do not believe the Secret Service would ever physically compel Trump to go somewhere (you know, other than whisking him away to safety in the event something actually happened). But I also don't believe they would interfere with a law enforcement officer with an arrest warrant - within limits.

They might insist that the LEO make accommodations to them so that they can always accompany him. They probably would not allow the state officials to place DJT in a location or facility where his safety couldn't be assured. But if Georgia law enforcement wanted to confine him in a hotel near the courthouse, then frog-march him into court, Secret Service would likely allow that to happen. They're there to provide protection, not insulate him from complying with law enforcement.

No clue whether they would do anything if he tried to board a plane to leave the country. Not even sure how that could happen, given that they'd have to buy a ticket for the Secret Service agent(s) and clear their firearm possession in advance - and surely the airline would not allow DJT to board the plane if he's skipped bail.
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Author: Lapsody 🐝  😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Hey albaby1, why would Trump...
Date: 08/25/2023 9:44 PM
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I think if Trump can get someone to loan him money, he will. And then he won't pay it back. What's "Dog the Bounty Hunter" going to do? Take on the Secret Service? He'd lose.

Look, this is a Stephen King short story, only has to sketchily deal with reality. Trump is convicted, evades the Secret Service and heads out for Russia via Mexico first on the advice of an Oath Keeper. So you can have a crazy run around Latin America as his Henchman aid, Klatu, continuously helps him evade Dog, played by Nicholas Cage. Dog is incredibly savvy, and a master of disguise and lingo. In the end Trump thinks he's made it into Saudi Arabia and laughs at Dog, but in reality he's in Djibouti, and Dog herds them onto the US Military base there, where Trump is captured. Now to somehow weave in a malevolent being.
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