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My 'love' for Europe is no secret but I do call em like I see em.

The selling of US Treasuries by the Danish -- that's sort of a badass move.


And frankly I don't blame them. Like I've said - you people should be charged at least 8-9% to borrow money. Shitty culture, leads to lots of other things that many would deem a high risk loan.

More of your country --is a pawn shop.

I think the Greenland rhetoric from Trump is stupid and counterproductive. There's a treaty that lets us pretty much do whatever we want up there so if we want to build Golden Dome launch sites, we can.

But Trump hasn't actually done anything. Issued dumb threats? Sure.

If the Danes want to dump their bond holdings, hey, okay.

But Trump hasn't actually done anything. Issued dumb threats? Sure.

That's not exactly true. He did jack up tariffs over this. He's not just laying back and saying, "I'd sure like to have Greenland someday" - he imposed a tariff on eight countries because they have not acceded to his demands. It basically scuttled the US-EU trade deal, which was pretty close to being done.

Plus, issuing dumb threats is doing something. Threats matter. Because other nations have to act on the threats. They can't assume they're nothing - partially because every national security threat has to be taken seriously and prepared for, and partially because Trump in particular has demonstrated that he's willing to do things that might otherwise have been dismissed as exceedingly unlikely.

And that's especially the case in a mutual collective security alliance like NATO, where the entire premise of the arrangement rests on the good-faith assertion that the parties will act in their common collective defense. If one country within the alliance issues threats against another country in the alliance, dumb or not, it reduces the effectiveness of the alliance.

They've asked him nicely to stop making the dumb threats. He keeps making the dumb threats. So they're going to start taking measures in response to the dumb threats.

Trump needs to share with the public what the urgency is that merits this kind of talk. Are the Europeans historical laggards when it comes to their own defense since, oh, 1990? Absolutely.

But them being less than useful isn't a justification for all this. Unless the US knows something else of relevance.

Trump needs to share with the public what the urgency is that merits this kind of talk.

I wholeheartedly agree. Though I am very skeptical that there actually is any urgency that merits this approach. Partially because I think this approach is counterproductive. And partially because I'm skeptical that this is motivated by anything more than Trump believing that it's more to his credit in the history books if he expands U.S. territory, rather than pushing on an open door and just doing anything we want up there to increase defense without owning Greenland.

But Trump hasn't actually done anything. Issued dumb threats? Sure.

If the Danes want to dump their bond holdings, hey, okay.

I guess it depends on how you understand the words hasn’t done anything

Heather Cox Richardson ended her Substack article as follows:

Tonight [last night] Danish troops—the same troops who stood shoulder to shoulder with U.S. troops in Afghanistan from 2001 to 2021—arrived in Greenland to defend the island from the United States of America.

Meanwhile, equities are way down. So too the US dollar. And somebody’s selling US treasuries, because they are significantly down as well.

And it appears that world wide, SOMEONE(s) is/are buying the go to asset that people, banks and nations buy when it looks like things are going to hell in a hand basket- gold. Already up about 80% in the last 12 months, today’s spot price for an ounce of gold is up over $150 since last Friday’s close.

Meanwhile, equities are way down.

I wonder how many people in Trump’s inner circle shorted stocks yesterday.

If I had to guess, I’d say approximately 100%.

If I had to guess, I’d say approximately 100%

Give or take…

But it certainly wasn’t less than that ;-)

Meanwhile, equities are way down.

I wonder how many people in Trump’s inner circle shorted stocks yesterday.

If I had to guess, I’d say approximately 100%.
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GOOD!


The Pelosi Plan works!

Trump needs to share with the public what the urgency is that merits this kind of talk.

The urgency is keeping the Epstein files out of the public thoughts. Distract them with the kind of statements even you call dumb.

--Peter

Plus, issuing dumb threats is doing something.

And he doesn’t leave it at that.

President Donald Trump on Tuesday shared a post on his Truth Social platform showing an old photograph of himself with other European leaders with the US flag depicting Canada, Greenland and Venezuela as a part of the United States. …. In another post, Trump is seen flanked by its Vice President JD Vance and Secretary of State Marco Rubio hoisting a US flag in Greenland, with a milepost that reads, "Greenland US Territory Est 2026".

https://www.indianeconomicobserver.com/news/greenl...

The urgency is keeping the Epstein files out of the public thoughts.

Sigh.
The only President sweating bullets about the Epstein files...is Bill Clinton, a man whose name is curiously absent from this board.

If there were anything on Trump the Biden DOJ would have him in prison already.

But Trump hasn't actually done anything.

Japan hadn’t “done anything” up until Dec. 6, 1941. Maybe we should have been a little more prepared based on the things they were saying.

Putin hadn’t “done anything” before Feb 24, 2002, but after he did something it was a bit late to start crying about it and hoping things would go back to normal.

But I’m sure if this was Obama threatening a NATO ally with invasion and takeover you’d be defending him saying “Well, it’s just talk. He hasn’t done anything .”

Ha ha ha. I better be careful. I’m liable to give myself a heart attack from laughing so loud.

I wonder how many people in Trump’s inner circle shorted stocks yesterday.

If I had to guess, I’d say approximately 100%. - AW

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The answer is zero, since the markets were closed yesterday.

The only President sweating bullets about the Epstein files...is Bill Clinton, a man whose name is curiously absent from this board.

If your theory was accurate, then Trump would have released the Epstein files on January 20, 2025 at 12:01pm.

Why would Trump protect Bill Clinton?

The answer is zero, since the markets were closed yesterday.

Futures market was partially open and other countries open. So back to 100%.

AW:
I wonder how many people in Trump’s inner circle shorted stocks yesterday.

BHM:
The answer is zero, since the markets were closed yesterday.

One can place orders to short stocks when the market is closed. The orders would be executed when the market opens.

😎

The only President sweating bullets about the Epstein files...is Bill Clinton, a man whose name is curiously absent from this board.

Everytime he’s brought up, we tell you- if he’s in there, let him face the consequences, so no, it’s not that he’s been curiously absent.

He and Donald Trump can be cellmates and we can all take bets on which one of them is the first to bend over to pick up the soap.

Everytime he’s brought up, we tell you- if he’s in there, let him face the consequences, so no, it’s not that he’s been curiously absent.

You people devote 0% of your energy in pursuing Clinton. 0.0%. Let's not kid ourselves as to why, either.

people devote 0% of your energy in pursuing Clinton. 0.0%. Let's not kid ourselves as to why, either.

He hasn’t been president since 2000- 26 years and 5 presidencies ago. Still, if he’s implicated, try him and send him to prison. I can’t be clearer than that.

He hasn’t been president

So what?
Again, we both know the reason why.

Dope1,

I think Trump HAS done something very positive, and very important.

He's gotten the other NATO nations to acknowledge that Greenland is important.

He's gotten them to start to invest their own resources into Greenland.

He's a very stable genius.

So what?
Again, we both know the reason why.

Mind reading again?

I told you my thinking on the matter. If it doesn’t match up with your right wing paranoia, there’s not much I can do about that.

Dope1: You people devote 0% of your energy in pursuing Clinton. 0.0%. Let's not kid ourselves as to why, either.

Why would we? Bill Clinton publicly called on the U.S. Department of Justice to release all remaining documents in the Epstein files that relate to or mention him — including photos, records, and other materials.

So, where are the complete Epstein files that Trump promised to make public?

Please, are you deliberately showing your historical ignorance?

Japan had already invaded China, Manchuria, and Indochina before it attacked Pearl Harbor.

But OK they hadn't done anything before Dec 6. 1941.

Whatever you say bro.

But Trump hasn't actually done anything. Issued dumb threats? Sure.

Dope, I don't think there is any line that Trump could cross that would make you question your support for him. You always find excuses for every corrupt, stupid, destructive thing he does.

Should Trump invade Greenland, you'll be back here with all the 'reasons' it makes sense.

I wonder how many people in Trump’s inner circle shorted stocks yesterday.

This administration has never met a grift it doesn't like.

Dope1: You people devote 0% of your energy in pursuing Clinton. 0.0%. Let's not kid ourselves as to why, either.

Laughable what-aboutism.

It has been said on these boards repeatedly that if Clinton is guilty of wrongdoing in connection with Epstein he should suffere the consequences.

You just want to protect your Dear Leader. You have, and will, excuse any corrupt, unethical or criminal thing he does. At least you are consistent.

He's a very stable genius.

Then have him pick up his pitchfork and start CLEANING OUT HIS STABLE. What is on the ground of his stable is his own output, so if he has problems with it, HIS PROBLEM.

"You people devote 0% of your energy in pursuing Clinton. 0.0%. Let's not kid ourselves as to why, either." - Dumbass Dope

Every single democrat/liberal here has indicated that they want the Epstein files completely released and let the chips fall where they might. If Clinton is implicated, so be it. What else do you want us to do regarding Clinton?

Perhaps you should be more forceful about Trump.......

Trump controls the files. Trump was best friends with him for years. Trump has commented on Epstein liking young girls. Trump sent Epstein intimate birthday cards and hung around him regularly at parties where all of this stuff was going on.

Yet you don't care about that. You don't care if Trump knew about the pedophilia and did nothing. He is your cult leader so you will look the other way just like you did when he was convicted of 34 felonies. Just like you did when he bragged about sexually assaulting women on tape. Just like you did when he was judicially acknowledged to be a rapist. And on and on.

It is why people here think you are a piece of shit and a despicable person. I hope you are a Christian and you are judged the way you want others to be judged. If so, enjoy hell.

"The only President sweating bullets about the Epstein files...is Bill Clinton, a man whose name is curiously absent from this board." - Dumbass Dope

I know Dope uses sources of information that take advantage of him and make him regularly look like an idiot. Maybe someone should tell him that Clinton is sweating so many bullets over the files that he wants them all immediately released. Especially the one's containing his name.

Dumbass.

Exactly - it's Ruling Class who is scared of files.

I wish Trump would release it and just say "Look, I won two terms. They knew about Stormy. If they hear about me and some teenager -- heck, this country is so culturally fucked, not many people will care anyways they know I'm scummy and those who like me, like me. Now YOU on the other hand ---Clinton, CEOs, professors, judges, people with wives, kids etc....have a nice morning now. I'm not sure flowers will solve your troubles"

On whose dime is he getting rich on?

Oh, that would be the 401K'ers who didn't want to compromise. Or even listen. They wanted to ostracize and shun.

Good.

It's time for the Religion of Peace migrants in Sweden to take a day off from Swedish women, and do it to the Bill of Rights.

O Say, can you see?

PS: Little tweaks to immigration, assimilation, and trade would've prevented ALL of this. Quieting down pronoun bullies would've also helped curtail some of this.

But, you people still can't admit it.

As long as that is the case, I hope this gets worse and worse.

"No Mercy" - I hate quoting Mr Kreese but in this case, I have succumbed.

He hasn’t been president since 2000- 26 years and 5 presidencies ago. Still, if he’s implicated, try him and send him to prison. I can’t be clearer than that.

Agreed.

Though, to pick a nit, if the statute of limitations has expired, you can't really send him to prison. I have no idea what the statute of limitations is for pedophilia. If it has expired, then really the Epstein Files (which, I know, aren't really files) serve more to dissuade people from tolerating the pedophiles (e.g. the Felon). Hopefully to dissuade people from voting for them, hiring them, etc. Imprisoning them is not an option if the crime has "expired".

Which could lead me into a whole different tangent about why we have limitations at all. But I won't derail the thread for that.

Please stop replying to the mouth breathers

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