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Author: BenSolar   😊 😞
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Subject: Great Earnings Report Boosts UPST
Date: 02/12/2025 1:34 PM
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UPST finally broke out of the doldrums with robust top-line growth, almost returning to GAAP profitability, and was profitable on an adjusted basis. Continued growth is projected.

This should really send the shorts running for cover. It's up 31% for the day, at the moment.
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Author: earslookin   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Great Earnings Report Boosts UPST
Date: 02/13/2025 9:34 AM
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They were already running: https://public.flourish.studio/visualisation/12944...

An interesting question is what expectations are built into the current price.

Ears
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Author: BenSolar   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Great Earnings Report Boosts UPST
Date: 02/21/2025 10:59 AM
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"[The shorts] were already running: https://public.flourish.studio/visualisation/12944... "

Yeah, ever since Upstart scored a solid commitment for capital, and inflation started coming down, the business environment for them improved, and any chance of a short term implosion disappeared. Still a lot of shorts out there, though, and if Upstart shows solid growth and a return to profitability with a ballpark flat interest rate environment, more and more may give up hope, giving a solid boost to buying interest in the coming year.

"An interesting question is what expectations are built into the current price."

Yep, I have no precise estimates for you, just a lot of growth with a tremendously large addressable market. It's a story stock, probably will be for years, as long as they show growth from here and don't disappoint too badly.

I'm a value investor at heart, but I got sucked into this stock by the combination of great growth, real earnings that briefly gave the stock a decent looking PE if you projected solid growth, and huge a addressable market. Got caught by surprise by their inability to keep making money when inflation and interest rates skyrocketed, but the stock dropped so much I thought the story made it worth holding onto.

It would be smart to run some numbers, but really it's a bet on robust growth for years to come and there may not be too much to be gained by making it more granular than that.
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Author: earslookin   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Great Earnings Report Boosts UPST
Date: 02/21/2025 9:41 PM
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There used to be two things that were certain -- death and taxes. I think
we can add UPST management greed to that list. Last year insiders sold $68M.
It's only been a month and a half this year so far and they're already on pace
to outdo last year.

Which brings me to growth. Growth is good if they're creating value. If they're
destroying value, growth is bad. Let's compare 2024 to 2021.

            2021     2024
----- -----
Revenue $849M $653M
Expense $708M $809M

So even though their revenue was $200M lower last year than 2021, their
expenses were $100M higher! Perhaps there are good reasons for that, but
it certainly deserves a deeper look. If I get ambitious, I'll drag out
my magnifying glass.

Ears <no position>



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