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Author: Dope1   😊 😞
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Subject: So it was a coup: Hersh
Date: 07/30/2024 1:20 PM
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https://pjmedia.com/matt-margolis/2024/07/30/new-d...

This is PJ Media quoting Seymour Hersh: https://seymourhersh.substack.com/p/leaving-las-ve...

First up, what happened to Biden in Vegas? The COVID thing always seemed bogus:
At that point, according to Emily Goodin, a Daily Mail reporter who was in the traveling press pool, the president was "deathly pale" and Air Force One flew at maximum speed to Delaware, where the president has a weekend retreat at Rehoboth Beach. The press pool was told that Biden had COVID. Nothing more was said on Air Force One. After Biden's return to Delaware, the White House told the public that Biden had contracted a COVID infection and would be in isolation. He was said to have upper respiratory symptoms, a runny nose, a cough, and was fatigued.

That was the last straw for a core group of Congressional leaders, government officials and some senior Biden funders who were withholding huge amounts of committed contributions. "There was pressure on donors to come across on their pending commitments," the official told me. "It was understood that Biden had a physical problem in Las Vegas and the family was saying no" to continued pressure from donors and senior Democrats in Congress to withdraw from the presidential campaign. Initially, the president could not be reached.


This was the last straw. That's when the people who run the party stepped in:

(from Hersh's piece)

By Saturday, July 20, former President Barack Obama was deeply involved, and there was talk that he would place a call to Biden. It was not clear whether Biden had been examined or just what happened to him in Las Vegas. "The Big Three," the official said, referring to former House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, Senate Majority Leader Charles Schumer and House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries, continued to be directly involved. "On Sunday morning," the official told me, with the approval of Pelosi and Schumer,

"Obama called Biden after breakfast and said, 'Here's the deal. We have Kamala's approval to invoke the 25th Amendment." The amendment provides that when the president is determined by the vice president and others to be unfit to carry out the powers and duties of his office, the vice president shall assume those duties.


So Marcus Junius Brutus Obama was the one who held the knife, delivering the ultimatum to Biden Leave the race or we'll remove you from office. And Harris, Pelosi and Schumer were all in on it. Interesting.

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Author: AlphaWolf 🐝  😊 😞
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Subject: Re: So it was a coup: Hersh
Date: 07/30/2024 1:53 PM
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Did you know that the word “gullible” is listed in the dictionary twice?

Look it up.
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Author: Lapsody 🐝  😊 😞
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Subject: Re: So it was a coup: Hersh
Date: 07/30/2024 1:58 PM
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coup
1. a sudden, violent, and unlawful seizure of power from a government.
"he was overthrown in an army coup"

No, it was not a coup as PJ Media characterizes it. The 25th amendment is lawful, and not violent.

Then: "So Marcus Junius Brutus Obama was the one who held the knife, delivering the ultimatum to Biden Leave the race or we'll remove you from office. And Harris, Pelosi and Schumer were all in on it. Interesting."

It's what you would expect. Obama was the best one to deliver the bad news. Hersh probably has a gist of what was said, but not exactly or how it was delivered. Obama and Biden are friends. Neither Pelosi, Shumer or Jeffries could deliver that message. That's a tough message - and it wasn't holding a knife - Biden was in a bad way and needed that last final touch to let go. Good that he got it from a friend. You delight in Palace intrigue, don't you?
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Author: ptheland   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: So it was a coup: Hersh
Date: 07/30/2024 2:07 PM
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More of your same old forumulaic schtick. Trump and MAGA = good. Biden and Harris and Democrats = bad.

Its the way Trump fools so many people into thinking he's successful, and his minions glom onto it in a futile attempt to claim some of that fake success for themselves, so they can feel successful.

The only thing you're successful at is flinging poop like an ape standing behind a cardboard cutout of a person.

I could talk about facts and reason and how much PJ Media lies and Hersh has gone off the deep end in his dotage, but that's not useful when dealing with a poop-flinging ape. All I can do is identify it and be prepared for the inevitable flurry of name calling and self promotion that will follow. Because that's all that you've got.

--Peter
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Author: Lapsody 🐝  😊 😞
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Subject: Re: So it was a coup: Hersh
Date: 07/30/2024 2:40 PM
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SNIP Seymour Hersh has also gone off the deep end lately. Some current examples[1]:

* the Osama bin Laden raid was faked in a conspiracy with Pakistan and he was actually captured in 2006

* much of the US special forces is controlled by secret members of Opus Dei

* that the US military flew Iranian terrorists to Nevada for training

* the 2013 chemical weapons attack in Syria was a "false flag" staged by the government of Turkey

Being right decades ago doesn't somehow absolve you of having to have verifiable sources and evidence when you go on to make numerous other claims that don't happen and no one can verify. SNIP
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Author: Dope1   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: So it was a coup: Hersh
Date: 07/30/2024 2:57 PM
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Look it up.

So in your mind, Biden decided on his own to step back?

Speaking of gullible...I've got some oceanfront property in Utah to show you.
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Author: Dope1   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: So it was a coup: Hersh
Date: 07/30/2024 3:01 PM
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More of your same old forumulaic schtick.

Lulz. Now you're just becoming another version of Triumph the Insult Dog. The board has like 10 of them and the others are better at it than you are.

You're not even ATTEMPTING to look at what was posted; you're now just on Jihad of Personal Destruction of other posters. News flash, homie: you're not all that.

Grow up, get some game, then come back and see me.

Meanwhile - your heroes at the democrat party just overthrew your President. I'd think that adherents of the Democracy diiiiiiiiiies in darkness would have a problem with that but little totalitarians really don't.

Now we know what team you play for! Run along now.



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Author: Dope1   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: So it was a coup: Hersh
Date: 07/30/2024 3:01 PM
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And pro tip: when you're accusing someone else of having a "Schtick", you should understand what the word means. And then avoid doing...what you're accusing others of doing.
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Author: ges 🐝  😊 😞
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Subject: Re: So it was a coup: Hersh
Date: 07/30/2024 3:33 PM
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SNIP Seymour Hersh has also gone off the deep end

No kidding!

That is serious tinfoil hat stuff.
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Author: Lapsody 🐝  😊 😞
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Subject: Re: So it was a coup: Hersh
Date: 07/30/2024 3:40 PM
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So in your mind, Biden decided on his own to step back?

He never said that Dope. Are you a mind reader too?
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Author: Banksy 🐝🐝  😊 😞
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Subject: Re: So it was a coup: Hersh
Date: 07/30/2024 4:10 PM
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"Seymour Hersh has gone off the deep end." "No kidding! That is serious tinfoil hat stuff."

This is what the GOP has been reduced to under Trump...
Idiotic, tinfoil hat wearing, conspiracy theorists. Sad.

Also we still have no idea where Kamala stands on electrocution vs being eaten by a shark!

Facepalm...
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Author: ges 🐝  😊 😞
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Subject: Re: So it was a coup: Hersh
Date: 07/30/2024 5:33 PM
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This is what the GOP has been reduced to under Trump...
Idiotic, tinfoil hat wearing, conspiracy theorists. Sad.


Horrifying to think of these people running our government.

Also we still have no idea where Kamala stands on electrocution vs being eaten by a shark!

You have to wonder why she won't say where she stands on this issue. What's she hiding? And why is she silent about Hannibal Lecter?
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Author: ptheland   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: So it was a coup: Hersh
Date: 07/30/2024 5:49 PM
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And pro tip: when you're accusing someone else of having a "Schtick", you should understand what the word means. And then avoid doing...what you're accusing others of doing.

But I'm doing exactly what you do on purpose. I'm not trying to avoid schtick, I'm trying - and apparently succeeding - at duplicating your schtick.

And that schtick is completely devoid of fact or thinking. It's just mindless repetition of a single formula: "me good, them bad". Everything you ever say boils down to that. But you aren't smart enough to see that. And that's why I'm good and you are bad.

--Peter

Pro tip: I did make a brief comment on the substance of your reply. It was something along the lines of the New York Post lies a lot and Hersh is a senile old fool. Once that is determined, there's no point in discussing any further details, because nothing in the article can be trusted to be fact. But again, I'm smart and can see that, and you are dumb and can't tell when you are being lied to.
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Author: Dope1   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: So it was a coup: Hersh
Date: 07/30/2024 7:20 PM
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But I'm doing exactly what you do on purpose.

No, you're doing what in your mind is "what I do".

Whatever that is. I suppose there's some other stuff going on in your mind, but, again - that's a you thing.

It's not my fault that the events (and facts) of the day are so, so badly misaligned with how you want to perceive the world.
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Author: knighttof3   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: So it was a coup: Hersh
Date: 07/30/2024 7:32 PM
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It's not my fault that the events (and facts) of the day are so, so badly misaligned with how you want to perceive the world.

That's a bit of a projection, if I may say so.
Jan 6,2021 was an attempted and failed coup.
State elections, certified by Republicans and Democrats, showed Biden to be the winner.
Trump supporters tried to overturn that result by ... not sure what the plan was, but Proud Boys were walking around with zip ties so I assume by taking congresspeople and senators hostage. To thwart voters' will by force. That is a classic coup.
I only wish it had either succeeded (at first and then put down by force by LEOs), or failed in a bloody massacre. So there would be absolutely no doubt how nutty and fascist Trump is. Too bad that didn't happen.
Maybe this time, after Harris wins the electoral vote, and Gassolini retries Jan 6.
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Author: Dope1   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: So it was a coup: Hersh
Date: 07/30/2024 7:43 PM
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Jan 6,2021 was an attempted and failed coup.

Jan 6. didn't come up in any of my posts, so a) I don't what you're talking about and b) don't know who you mean to be talking to.
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Author: ptheland   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: So it was a coup: Hersh
Date: 07/30/2024 11:39 PM
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It's not my fault that the events (and facts) of the day are so, so badly misaligned with how you want to perceive the world.<\i>

See? You are proving my point. You have only one response to everything. You are so desperate to be seen as a winner that you must be right in everything you say.

You can’t stand it that some people are calling Biden’s resignation heroic, so you’ll swallow any lie that makes it look less heroic. Then you have to repeat that lie to justify to yourself that you are a hero and Biden, whom you oppose, is not.

The real truth is that Trump is just one big loser. He proclaims himself to be the hero and winner, but he has deluded himself the same way you have deluded yourself - by doing nothing more than claiming to be a winner, even when the facts say otherwise. That is why you need “alternative facts” to keep your delusion alive.

When you are ready to admit your self delusion, there are plenty of people who can help you. But until then, all anyone can do is point out your delusion in the starkest way possible.

—Peter
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Author: knighttof3   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: So it was a coup: Hersh
Date: 07/31/2024 12:19 AM
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Jan 6. didn't come up in any of my posts, so a) I don't what you're talking about and b) don't know who you mean to be talking to.

Addressing your post title - Jan 6 was literally a textbook coup attempt.
Biden's decision to not run is not a coup, except perhaps figuratively.
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Author: Dope1   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: So it was a coup: Hersh
Date: 07/31/2024 1:32 AM
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See? You are proving my point. You

You're assuming I'm bothering to read your posts now. Spoiler alert: Not really.
As long as you want to avoid the issues of the day and just try to make everything about me, you're just another pile of useless on this board.

Again, it isn't my fault that reality goes one way and what rattles around in your head goes the other.
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Author: Dope1   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: So it was a coup: Hersh
Date: 07/31/2024 1:33 AM
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Addressing your post title - Jan 6 was literally a textbook coup attempt.
Biden's decision to not run is not a coup, except perhaps figuratively.


Uh, huh. So Barack Consigliere Obama basically threatens the sitting President and it's all cool.
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Author: Lapsody 🐝  😊 😞
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Subject: Re: So it was a coup: Hersh
Date: 07/31/2024 8:36 AM
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Again, it isn't my fault that reality goes one way and what rattles around in your head goes the other.

Oh, the irony. Dope lives in his own leggo Trump world where Trump reigns supreme and nothing Trump does can kill the magic.
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Author: Lambo 🐝  😊 😞
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Subject: Re: So it was a coup: Hersh
Date: 07/31/2024 8:51 AM
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Uh, huh. So Barack Consigliere Obama basically threatens the sitting President and it's all cool

You haven't established that, Dope. I've posted some of the batshit crazy stuff Seymour Hersh writes, so we'll have to wait for some corroborative evidence that appears genuine. You keep bringing slop to the table and declaring it's prime rib and apple pie. When you build a sand castle based on lies, expect it to fall apart now and then. You think a response of "Hah!" let's you skate like an artful dodger. Instead you become a caricature.
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