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Author: CrankyCharlie   😊 😞
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Subject: HSY getting hammered
Date: 03/04/2024 9:58 AM
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Mungo-Buy weakness?

Not sure why getting hit
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Author: hummingbird   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: HSY getting hammered
Date: 03/04/2024 10:17 AM
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money moving back into tech stocks, I nibbled at 404 n change the other day...waiting...
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Author: CrankyCharlie   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: HSY getting hammered
Date: 03/04/2024 10:24 AM
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$404?

BRKB or HSY?
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Author: hclasvegas 🐝  😊 😞
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Subject: Re: HSY getting hammered
Date: 03/04/2024 10:51 AM
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speaking of charts, more ugly.
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Author: mungofitch 🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝 BRONZE
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Subject: Re: HSY getting hammered
Date: 03/04/2024 10:52 AM
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Not sure why getting hit

There was another downgrade, the price has been falling for a while, management's outlook for the year was poor, and the high cocoa prices are a good narrative for traders.

As you can imagine, I'm pretty stubborn about my opinions, so I'm not selling. Even through the high cocoa prices are actually an issue, not just a story.

I waited a number of years for what I thought was a good entry. In that situation I don't sweat too hard about the (usually transient) bad news that dominates at such times.

Jim
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Author: rivervalley   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: HSY getting hammered
Date: 03/04/2024 10:55 AM
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NSRGY looking pretty oversold on a 1 year and 3 year basis too
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Author: Philly Tide   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: HSY getting hammered
Date: 03/04/2024 11:01 AM
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Looks like it will try to test the 12/20/23 close at 179.52 soon. Could make a nice double bottom.

That being said, it is in a nasty downtrend. I think a major fear is that the GLP-1 drugs will slow down consumer snacking. That is hard for me to believe, but I will wait for a solid bottom before buying.

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Author: CrankyCharlie   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: HSY getting hammered
Date: 03/04/2024 11:07 AM
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NSRGY one of the great all time Co's. NEVER cheap
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Author: hummingbird   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: HSY getting hammered
Date: 03/04/2024 11:11 AM
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sorry , brkb
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Author: carolsharp   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: HSY getting hammered
Date: 03/04/2024 12:28 PM
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NSRGY one of the great all time Co's. NEVER cheap

Let's see.

It's up a whopping 9% over 5 years.

38% over 10 years.

210% over 15 years.

308% over 20 years.

We must have different definitions of great.
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Author: CrankyCharlie   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: HSY getting hammered
Date: 03/04/2024 12:42 PM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KxFdPKbqNv4

NSRGY no brainer. I said the Co. NOW the stock is a buy
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Author: CrankyCharlie   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: HSY getting hammered
Date: 03/04/2024 1:02 PM
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NSRGY looks like a fat pitch too JIM?
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Author: DTB   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: HSY getting hammered
Date: 03/04/2024 1:27 PM
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I think a major fear is that the GLP-1 drugs will slow down consumer snacking. That is hard for me to believe, but I will wait for a solid bottom before buying.



I would love to hear a quantitative analysis of how GLP-1 drugs could be a threat to the likes of Hershey, Coca-Cola, Pepsi, etc. But like you, I am skeptical - it is very hard for me to believe this will be an issue for any significant volume of sales.

dtb
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Author: Said   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: HSY getting hammered
Date: 03/04/2024 1:29 PM
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Charlie: NSRGY one of the great all time Co's. NEVER cheap

carolsharp: Let's see........ We must have different definitions of great.

I am with Charlie. Nestle is one of the most reliable dividend payers in the world (currently >3%). Include those and your numbers look very different.

Charlie is absolutely right, it's one of the rare great all time companies, and it's never cheap - - - but clearly less expensive now than usually. As I waited many years for that to happen I bought a little last week, this week, and will continue.
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Author: Said   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: HSY getting hammered
Date: 03/04/2024 1:42 PM
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NSRGY looks like a fat pitch too JIM?

If I am not mistaken he wrote something that he bought too, for $96 or so - - - clearly "overpaying" (I paid $92 :-)
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Author: mungofitch 🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝 BRONZE
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Subject: Re: HSY getting hammered
Date: 03/04/2024 3:43 PM
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I would love to hear a quantitative analysis of how GLP-1 drugs could be a threat to the likes of Hershey, Coca-Cola, Pepsi, etc

I am more than dubious.
If I were taking a drug that made me skinnier, I would eat more chocolate, not less, for sure. Whether it reduced appetite or not: chocolate isn't something I eat based on hunger!
As it happens, I just had some outstanding extra-high-cocoa-content Ducasse milk chocolate. Even though I'm not a milk chocolate kind of person....ahhhh.

Jim
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Author: mungofitch 🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝 BRONZE
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Subject: Re: HSY getting hammered
Date: 03/04/2024 3:51 PM
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carolsharp: Let's see........ We must have different definitions of great.

In terms of stock market returns (certainly not a metric of value), it's far from a loser.

One could characterize Nestle's returns as follows--

Hugely outperformed the average S&P 500 firms 2006-2009. Very much in fashion!
Did about as well as the average S&P 500 firm 2009-2013.
A modest relative slide 2013-2017, say a one time slide of 15% or so, undoing around half the relative-to-S&P boost from 2006-2009.
Roughly tracking the average S&P 500 firm 2017 till the middle of last year.
Then a pretty sudden drop of about 22% leading to the recent "cheaper than usual" situation.

Even at the current seemingly depressed price level (temporarily??), it has nicely outperformed the average S&P 500 firm since any time in the 2003-2006 stretch.
I don't have data handy for any time before that.

Performance notes are based on total return including dividends.

Jim

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Author: CrankyCharlie   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: HSY getting hammered
Date: 03/04/2024 4:17 PM
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They own a stake in Loreal too.
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Author: CrankyCharlie   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: HSY getting hammered
Date: 03/04/2024 6:41 PM
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Dated but very good on NESTLE the Co. (NSRGY): QUALITY on sale

https://moiglobal.com/tom-russo-nestle-2017/
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Author: ciao8   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: HSY getting hammered
Date: 03/04/2024 8:03 PM
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"I am with Charlie. Nestle is one of the most reliable dividend payers in the world (currently >3%).
Include those and your numbers look very different."

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A useful stock total return including Dividends web site...

https://dqydj.com/stock-return-calculator/

Plug in NSRGY , set for 10 yrs , & I get ~ 7% / yr total return.



Also one for ETF's

https://dqydj.com/etf-return-calculator/

ciao

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Author: rnam   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: HSY getting hammered
Date: 03/05/2024 3:49 AM
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Swiss chocolatier Lindt seems to be doing fine, high cocoa prices and other sources of inflation not withstanding. Being a premium brand compared to Hershey and Nestle, gives them much greater pricing power. But PE of 40 is double that of Hershey and Nestle.

I usually grab a packet of truffles on my monthly Costco expedition. Much more delicious than anything Hershey, Nestle or Mars offers.

The Swiss chocolatier said on Tuesday that it increased its full-year net profit by 18% to 671.4 million Swiss francs ($758.6 million) compared with the prior year, which it attributed to price increases as a result of higher raw-material prices and inflationary pressure.

Earnings before interest and taxes increased 9.2% to CHF813.1 million, with a margin that expanded to 15.6% from 15.0%.

The company confirmed its preliminary sales figures published in January, which showed sales grew 10% organically, as well as its 2024 guidance.


https://www.morningstar.com/news/dow-jones/2024030...
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