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Author: UpNorthJoe 🐝  😊 😞
Number: of 48466 
Subject: Maybe Make a Difference in Gun Policy ?
Date: 03/17/2024 9:36 AM
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https://www.mlive.com/news/2024/03/legal-impact-of...

The mother and father of Oxford mass shooter are both going to prison for the murders their son committed in Oxford high school a couple of years ago. Hopefully the consequences of allowing easy access to guns will be felt across the country ( I am doubtful, but 1 can hope ).

I still can clearly remember how immature I was in HS, and basically 95% of all my HS classmates were just as bad. But arguments and fits of rage were settled with fists back then, did not know a single teen that had a handgun. And many times, a fight cleared the air, and you became friends with the other kid. But if guns had been available, there would have been dead kids, no doubt about it. That was long ago, but it is pretty bizarre that handguns are willfully made available to teenagers.
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Author: ges 🐝  😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Maybe Make a Difference in Gun Policy ?
Date: 03/17/2024 10:27 AM
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I still can clearly remember how immature I was in HS, and basically 95% of all my HS classmates were just as bad. But arguments and fits of rage were settled with fists back then, did not know a single teen that had a handgun. And many times, a fight cleared the air, and you became friends with the other kid. But if guns had been available, there would have been dead kids, no doubt about it. That was long ago, but it is pretty bizarre that handguns are willfully made available to teenagers.

This was exactly my experience going to high school in the 1960s. Lots of fist fights but never a knife or gun. The stupid male adolescent brain with toxic levels of testosterone...

Easy access to guns and, no doubt, other cultural changes have made altercations much more deadly.
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Author: WiltonKnight   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Maybe Make a Difference in Gun Policy ?
Date: 03/17/2024 11:11 AM
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I still can clearly remember how immature I was in HS, and basically 95% of all my HS classmates were just as bad. But arguments and fits of rage were settled with fists back then, did not know a single teen that had a handgun. And many times, a fight cleared the air, and you became friends with the other kid. But if guns had been available, there would have been dead kids, no doubt about it. That was long ago, but it is pretty bizarre that handguns are willfully made available to teenagers.
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Yes, but there were more homes with - parents. And it wasn't "racist" to say that.

Also, Moms and Dads were spending less money on eating out, "Fraaaash" organic meals, Pelotons, Yoga classes, tattoos, hair braids, rims for cars, granite this and backsplash that. They weren't buying the newest SmartPhone and streaming service. Point being - less tension and stress.

On paper- the Google Jockeys and Academic Putzery likes to tell us we're richer than we have ever been in America which is funny, because more people have financial issues and more people than ever are on meds

The same Google Jockeys marched us away from manufacturing based economies and despite their glib statistics, this decimated the family unit and the marriageable man - is now seeing his numbers declined. Now he's working per hour at a big box, with one side telling him "free market" and the putrefy Google Jockey telling him "$15 an hour!"

As if this were not enough, HipHop culture took over minds in the late 80s. It went mainstream. Whazzup Dawg took over how they walk, talk, act, think. Now it's not just the ghetto - but the trailer park and even the yoga moms....wagging fingers violently and swaying heads to argue loudly over simple stuff. (YouTube Karen videos. Youtube Burger King fights)....this that I wrote, you'll see in 98% of your videos.

So while they are listening to music with violent themes, walking and talking and acting that way, playing video games with violent themes. And stress out for financial and cultural reasons......NOW they got phones. Texting. Likes. Tweets. Ability to see humanity in others is gone. Ability to wait. To reason. To give in. GONE.

The guns were always available.

The culture wasn't always this.

I certainly hope the Ar15 stuff is taken away. I don't want to be shot because of the culture people have accepted but ---even after the guns are gone - the anger and culture remain.

The killing will grow.

Yep, fistfights and brawls - the OP said it 100%. The kid I used to fight 3 times in 7th grade- to this day in our 40's our kids now know each other.

The culture won't be tackled.

More will die.


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Author: Lapsody 🐝  😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Maybe Make a Difference in Gun Policy ?
Date: 03/18/2024 6:18 PM
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Gun zealots like to say it isn't the gun. So I point to Japan. The interesting part is that at the beginning of WW2 Japan had the same gun murder rate as the US. The first foray seemed to show that after WW2 there was a rejection of the old values, and that all of the murder was being done by the old WW2 generation. And as they died off, so did murder. In the 2d foray I ran across papers that supported this.

So along with reducing availability of guns, we need better values.
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