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Author: mungofitch 🐝🐝🐝🐝 SILVER
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Subject: OT: Canada
Date: 04/29/2025 10:33 AM
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I heard rumours that the US wants to join Canada as the eleventh province, is that right?

I am not sure this will be immediately agreed by Canadians (I am one), but I can see why the Americans would be interested.

One would expect the new province to experience a general convergence to Canadian norms over time, so the median American household's wealth would almost double - more at purchasing power parity. The maternal mortality rate would drop by about 62%, and the homicide rate by about 70%. Everybody would have health insurance, the aggregate health costs would halve, and life expectancy would rise by almost four years. The fraction of the population living in absolute poverty ($2.15/day in 2017 dollars at purchasing power parity) would drop by 83%. Elections would include a peaceful transfer of power.

I'm sure parliament will look upon the application with an open mind, on compassionate grounds.

Jim


Murder rates from Statista, maternal mortality from The Commonwealth Fund study, spending and life expectancy from Our World in Data, absolute poverty incidence from the World Bank via Wikipedia.
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Author: jerryab   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: OT: Canada
Date: 04/29/2025 10:40 AM
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I heard rumours that the US wants to join Canada as the eleventh province, is that right?

The Magats would then have to "move elsewhere"--but WHERE ??? They want to GET WELFARE--but NOT PAY FOR IT. They are being cut off from US federal welfare right now. Look at Arkansas and Chucklebee Sanders. She wanted FEMA help--DENIED !! That is now a STATE, not federal, matter. OOPS !!! DIY has gotta hurt a LOT !!! They got what they voted for--good and HARD!!
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Author: PucksFool 🐝  😊 😞
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Subject: Re: OT: Canada
Date: 04/29/2025 5:30 PM
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Georgia, North Carolina, Kentucky, and Arkansas were all sent the same "go suck eggs" form letter on disaster relief. Federal disaster relief will be donation jars at gas station, right next to the Billy needs dialysis, Jeanie needs a transplant, and the Fredi needs chemo jars.
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Author: OrmontUS 🐝🐝  😊 😞
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Subject: Re: OT: Canada
Date: 04/29/2025 5:39 PM
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Look at the "bright" side. It is my humble oppinion that all of the chopping of costs (and pushing others onto the state backs) and pumping of tariffs is optimally to cause a ceasation of the federal income tax and support the country by means of the warped equivalent of a VAT promoted as a tariff (in the same way that a national ID card is being promoted as a "Real ID" drivers license).

As far as merging with Canada? I suspect while 85% of USians whould see no problem, 85% (being generous here) would avoid the idea at all costs - up to, and includung, changing which candidate they vote for to lead their country.

Jeff
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Author: sykesix 🐝🐝  😊 😞
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Subject: Re: OT: Canada
Date: 04/29/2025 7:46 PM
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The Magats would then have to "move elsewhere"--but WHERE ??? They want to GET WELFARE--but NOT PAY FOR IT. They are being cut off from US federal welfare right now. Look at Arkansas and Chucklebee Sanders. She wanted FEMA help--DENIED !! That is now a STATE, not federal, matter. OOPS !!! DIY has gotta hurt a LOT !!! They got what they voted for--good and HARD!!

There are some natural dividing lines. For example, I live in Washington State. Western Washington (think Seattle) is mostly super-liberal to that point of almost being socialist. We were the first state to legalize both gay marriage and recreational marijuana by vote of the people. Eastern Washington is MAGA like you can't believe.

So we could simply carve off everything from say, north of Olympia and west of the Cascades. We wouldn't even need a new province, we could just join BC. Eastern Washington could join Idaho or vice versa, which they want to do anyway.
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Author: InParadise   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: OT: Canada
Date: 05/02/2025 4:20 PM
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One would expect the new province to experience a general convergence to Canadian norms over time, so the median American household's wealth would almost double - more at purchasing power parity. The maternal mortality rate would drop by about 62%, and the homicide rate by about 70%. Everybody would have health insurance, the aggregate health costs would halve, and life expectancy would rise by almost four years. The fraction of the population living in absolute poverty ($2.15/day in 2017 dollars at purchasing power parity) would drop by 83%. Elections would include a peaceful transfer of power.

Sounds like a glowing recommendation. But what I've picked up from your posts, you no longer live there. Why?

IP,
honestly interested
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Author: mungofitch 🐝🐝🐝🐝 SILVER
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Subject: Re: OT: Canada
Date: 05/03/2025 3:57 PM
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Sounds like a glowing recommendation. But what I've picked up from your posts, you no longer live there. Why?

Winters.

There's a longer explanation involving family health, but it amounts to the same thing.

Jim
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Author: InParadise   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: OT: Canada
Date: 05/04/2025 5:57 PM
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Winters.

There's a longer explanation involving family health, but it amounts to the same thing.

Jim


LOL. I get that. We flee to Canada for the Summer. I would be thrilled to find a 3 season place to call home and only have to take off for one season.

IP,
looking to be a global resident for the next ten years
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Author: mungofitch 🐝🐝🐝🐝 SILVER
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Subject: Re: OT: Canada
Date: 05/05/2025 4:57 PM
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LOL. I get that. We flee to Canada for the Summer. I would be thrilled to find a 3 season place to call home and only have to take off for one season.

Oh, hey, most of Canada is mostly very nice three seasons a year! But that fourth one might be up to 8 months long depending on your definition and precise location : )
Vancouver is "London but a bit wetter", but Ottawa is "makes Oslo and Moscow look warm". Quebec City is more "shovel or get buried".

Jim
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Author: jerryab   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: OT: Canada
Date: 05/05/2025 5:23 PM
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Ottawa is "makes Oslo and Moscow look warm"

In Winter 1996, we had some Russians from Moscow working at the ISP (here in the metro TC area in MN). They were complaining how cold it was in MN.
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Author: Jordrok   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: OT: Canada
Date: 05/06/2025 11:01 PM
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Winters.

True, our winters last about 6 months... The good news is with global warming, it's getting closer to 5 months now!
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Author: Philly Tide   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: OT: Canada
Date: 05/07/2025 2:34 PM
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True, our winters last about 6 months... The good news is with global warming, it's getting closer to 5 months now!

I have often wondered about this. Canada should be a pro global warming right?
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Author: jerryab   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: OT: Canada
Date: 05/07/2025 2:37 PM
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Canada should be a pro global warming right?

Only if they wanted all the US parasites from the right to move there--AFTER it warmed up.
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