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Author: wzambon 🐝 HONORARY
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Subject: Good News! Take Heart!
Date: 08/29/2025 4:55 PM
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Yes, it’s true that RFKJr is decimating the CDC and NIH, eliminating research funding and imperiling vaccinations for any number of communicable diseases……

But you don’t have to worry about dying from yellow food dye poisoning!!
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Author: Dope1   😊 😞
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Date: 08/29/2025 5:01 PM
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What critical research is being cut?

And if you’re at risk, can you still get a COVID shot?

I suspect that very few of you have ever written a research grant proposal and fewer still understand where the money goes. That’s the first point.

The second point is that we never should have been shooting up little kids with ‘Rona vaccines for the simple reason that…by and large they didn’t really need it.

The CDC is supposed to be one of the best if not THE BEST scientific agencies in the world. Instead, it’s been populated by morons who think we should restrict the entire population from any kind of interaction for one thing but bother to ask his friends to stop having wild-ass orgies to halt the spread of another.

The adults are in charge now.

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Author: EchotaBaaa   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Good News! Take Heart!
Date: 08/29/2025 8:17 PM
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I thought you would feel this is bad news.

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Author: wzambon 🐝 HONORARY
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Subject: Re: Good News! Take Heart!
Date: 08/29/2025 11:15 PM
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What critical research is being cut?

You’re kidding, right?
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Author: alan81   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Good News! Take Heart!
Date: 08/30/2025 8:54 AM
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And if you’re at risk, can you still get a COVID shot?
Most people can, but not all people can safely get vaccinations. For those people, the more members of society that are sick, the more likely they are to get sick. This is why many years ago the science determined we are MUCH better off if vaccinations are very wide spread.
I understand some healthy people don't want to get a vaccination, only to help other people... but that is pretty selfish of them.
Alan
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Author: Lambo 🐝  😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Good News! Take Heart!
Date: 08/30/2025 10:43 AM
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The second point is that we never should have been shooting up little kids with ‘Rona vaccines for the simple reason that…by and large they didn’t really need it.

This is just wrong. Kids were and still are considered a big vector in spreading the disease. If the object is to limit the spread, which during the initial phases of the pandemic is an object, then kids are good to be vaccinated when there becomes enough vaccine available. We had fear and misinformation being generated by supposed "adults", which lead to more folks becoming antivaxx.

And I do remember that during one major spread the Oklahoma panhandle's hospitals were overwhelmed, so they transferred kids with corona out of those hospitals to another state. It's the only time I remember where they were saying that kids were being infected by corona in large enough amounts to matter. If there's one spot, there's probably another. The object was to keep the hospitals from being overwhelmed. They did become overwhelmed.

You are just repeating things without critically analyzing them first.
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Author: Lambo 🐝  😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Good News! Take Heart!
Date: 08/30/2025 10:59 AM
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Understaffed Oklahoma pediatric hospitals overwhelmed with patients

by Miranda Vondale FosterWed, January 19th 2022 at 3:58 PM

OKLAHOMA CITY (KOKH) — Children in Oklahoma are being admitted to local hospitals in droves, majority of them being COVID positive, doctors say.

Just like other hospitals in Oklahoma, Oklahoma's children's hospitals are experiencing a staff shortage. One doctor said while they have the beds to accept additional patients, they don't have enough people to staff the open beds.

In addition to the staff shortage, doctors are saying many of the medicines used to treat COVID are in short supply as well. Health care workers say because of this short supply, they are having to pick and choose carefully who gets the treatment.

...Doctors say there have been over nine million cases of children getting sick from COVID-19, and a tenth of those happened just last week...


https://okcfox.com/news/local/understaffed-oklahom...
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Author: Dope1   😊 😞
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Date: 08/30/2025 11:15 AM
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This is just wrong.

No it is not wrong.
https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/cor...

Data tracking between 2020 and 2023 found that children made up about 18% of all people with reported COVID-19 in the United States.

While children are as likely as adults to catch the virus that causes COVID-19, kids are less likely to become seriously ill. From 2020 to the end of March 2024, children up to age 17 accounted for about 1.5% of people who needed to be treated for COVID-19 in the hospital.


By and large, kids aren’t at risk from COVID. That’s been true from the beginning. Are there kids who are? Sure. And they can still get access to the vaccine .

Stop being stuck in the panic of 2020.
Go get familiar with how vaccines work, who needs them and everything else. And stop dividing people into “pro vax” and “anti vax” camps when until you do.
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Author: PucksFool 🐝  😊 😞
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Date: 08/30/2025 11:30 AM
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Republicans are fond of telling us that states are the incubators of ideas for them to implement nationally.

It's time to mask up where it is legal.
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Author: wzambon 🐝 HONORARY
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Subject: Re: Good News! Take Heart!
Date: 08/30/2025 11:44 AM
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And stop dividing people into “pro vax” and “anti vax” camps when until you do.

The important distinction is between “vaccinated” and “not vaccinated”.

When vaccination rates fall, case rates rise.

Get vaccinated.

And a CDC screwing with vaccine availability is ensuring a greater number of sick/dead people.
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Author: Dope1   😊 😞
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Date: 08/30/2025 11:51 AM
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The important distinction is between “vaccinated” and “not vaccinated”

It isn’t that simple, although in liberal land it needs to be broken into “the herd” vs. “the enemy” camps because that’s the only way progressives process information.
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Author: AlphaWolf 🐝🐝  😊 😞
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Date: 08/30/2025 12:16 PM
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It isn’t that simple, although in liberal land it needs to be broken into “the herd” vs. “the enemy” camps because that’s the only way progressives process information.

Yessiree, Bob! You damn libs needn’t wurry your little heads off about a few kids getting sick and maybe dying. Hell, we can always make new ones.

You damn libs should learn to worry about the big issues in life like us right-wingers.

You know, like Cracker Barrel logos.
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Author: wzambon 🐝 HONORARY
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Subject: Re: Good News! Take Heart!
Date: 08/30/2025 12:27 PM
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It isn’t that simple,

It is quite simple.

Though there are multiple factors involved in disease transmission, the most important factor is the percentage of the population that is vaccinated. And that is within our ability to control.
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Author: Dope1   😊 😞
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Date: 08/30/2025 12:59 PM
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You damn libs needn’t wurry your little heads off about a few kids getting sick and maybe dying. </iL

And there it is. I don’t ever need to provide example because some lib whose intellectual capacity deluded them into believing that sarcasm = making an argument will show up and prove me right within a half hour.
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Author: Dope1   😊 😞
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Date: 08/30/2025 1:02 PM
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Though there are multiple factors involved in disease transmission, the most important factor is the percentage of the population that is vaccinated. And that is within our ability to control.

No.
What matters is the percentage of the population that’s reasonably resistant or immune to the disease. He assumption you’re making is that the only possible way to get there is to for everyone to line up and get the shot.

Diseases and illnesses live on a spectrum. Take smallpox - it’s deadly enough that we don’t want it around. Get the shot - any risks are outweighed by the benefits.

With COVID, now mutated to less destructive variants, that’s no longer necessary.
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Author: Lapsody 🐝  😊 😞
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Date: 08/30/2025 2:51 PM
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Yes, you are still very wrong.

DOPEThe second point is that we never should have been shooting up little kids with ‘Rona vaccines for the simple reason that…by and large they didn’t really need it.

ME: You are wrong - this is what's wrong. Back then we know kids were a highly likely vector for the transmissions, even if they didn't suffer too much ill effects from it. That view was underscored by:


SNIP Kids And Superspreaders Are Driving COVID-19 Cases In India, Huge Study Finds (500,000 contacts)
October 1, 2020
5:22 PM ET

In the largest study ever of transmission patterns for COVID-19, researchers in India tested more than a half-million contacts of 85,000 cases to examine how and to whom the coronavirus is spreading.

The first interesting finding: Children are spreading the virus amongst themselves and also to adults. Second: The greatest risk for infection among the people studied in the two southern Indian states of Tamil Nadu and Andhra Pradesh is a long bus or train ride.

https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsandsoda/2020/10/...
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Author: Lambo 🐝  😊 😞
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Date: 08/30/2025 2:57 PM
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Go get familiar with how vaccines work,

I've actually shown and documented that I understand much more about how the pandemic unfolded than you do. it's typical for you to not understand and try and bluster your way through.
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Date: 08/30/2025 5:25 PM
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With COVID, now mutated to less destructive variants, that’s no longer necessary.

Except when the MORE destructive variants are created. But, Spankee and RFK Jr killing off another significant number of conservative voters in key states will help restore a lot.
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Author: Dope1   😊 😞
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Date: 08/30/2025 5:36 PM
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I've actually shown and documented that I understand much more about how the pandemic unfolded than you

Whatever, homie. Talk yourself into whatever you want to believe.
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Author: Dope1   😊 😞
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Date: 08/30/2025 5:47 PM
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adults. Second: The greatest risk for infection among the people studied in the two southern Indian states of Tamil Nadu and Andhra Pradesh is a long bus or train ride.

Soooo….the virus spread through close contact.
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Author: Lapsody 🐝  😊 😞
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Date: 08/30/2025 6:11 PM
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Dope, here's what you said originally upthread-

The second point is that we never should have been shooting up little kids with ‘Rona vaccines

Now here's what you say:

With COVID, now mutated to less destructive variants, that’s no longer necessary.

Changed your position because you got your ass kicked on the first position of "never" which was just plain wrong.
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Author: Dope1   😊 😞
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Date: 08/30/2025 6:14 PM
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Changed your position because you got your ass kicke

Changed nothing.
You just can’t stay on topic, can you?
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Author: sano 🐝🐝  😊 😞
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Date: 09/01/2025 7:23 PM
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God sez: "....the chickens of anti-vax madness have come home to roost, and one of Donald’s most loyal mouthpieces is now screaming at the clouds because his wife can’t get a COVID shot.

Erick Erickson, a three-time Trump voter and MAGA radio host, has long cheered on the same movement that elevated Robert F. Kennedy Jr. into power. Now his wife has Stage 4 lung cancer and needs the vaccine that RFK Jr. and his cult hate so much because they’re morons.

But guess what? She can’t get it anymore. CVS announced it’s halting vaccinations in 16 states because the Department of Health and Human Services has collapsed into chaos under RFK Jr.’s reign of madness.

But instead of blaming RFK Jr. or Trump, Erickson points his finger at…Joe Biden! The same Biden administration that no longer even exists. This lunatic could not be more in denial. It’s like his house is burning down and instead of blaming the arsonist he’s blaming the fire chief who retired last year.

RFK Jr. killed half a billion dollars in vaccine research. He replaced experts with anti-science quacks. Pharmacies can’t administer vaccines. Vulnerable people like Erickson’s wife are left defenseless.

Donald Trump’s regime put a conspiracy theorist in charge of the nation’s health, and the result is that millions of people are going to die. Those who once mocked vaccines now find themselves desperate for the science they tried to destroy. Who could have seen this coming? Oh, right. Everyone with a functional brain."


The screen saves of Erickson's posts are so damn Alex Jonesish
https://substack.com/home/post/p-172501630

Si, se habla schadenfreude aqui.
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Author: jerryab   😊 😞
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Date: 09/01/2025 8:32 PM
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the same movement that elevated Robert F. Kennedy Jr. into power.

They got the Betsy McGaughey + RFK Jr "Death Panel" they voted for. Only it came for THEM. OOPS !!!
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