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In March 2025, in the thread "Re: OT, out", Umm asked the members: "Do you think it is because America is made up of magical soil that makes businesses based in America magically profitable?" This week it is put to everyone again. The button below opens the small thread re-asking it - read what others have said so far, then give your own answer as an ordinary reply.
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Author: albaby1 ✶❂🐝 GOLD
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Subject: Re: Democrat Surrender Monkeys
Date: 11/10/25 10:36 AM
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It looks like they (the eight) moved on the promise of a vote for the ACA and that employees riffed in October would be recalled. Everyone gets paid. The Bill has to be written, but it seems bi partisan, so there may be some GOP that want to keep the ACA. There will be a vote in the first two weeks of December. We shall see.

It's not a lot - but honestly, probably as much as they ever could have gotten. This was always what was likely to happen. From the last time, when the Democrats didn't shut down the government:

So if Schumer had voted down the CR, it wouldn't have been fighting - it would have just been failure. The government would shut down for 5-31 days or so, the GOP would not bargain, and the Democrats would eventually just have to approve the same CR anyway. Mostly because no one ever can use a shutdown as leverage. It never works. It didn't work for Gingrich, it didn't work when Cruz wanted to lever the shutdown into defunding Obamacare, it didn't work for the GOP trying to get border wall funding. Voters don't like it when the government shuts down, they don't want anyone trying to use it to gain leverage on policy matters.

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And it ended up exactly as discussed further in that thread:

Their chance to stop the CR was in the House. They failed. Once it went to the Senate, they could either pass it or end up holding the bag on the ensuing shutdown. Believing that the GOP would negotiate during the shutdown is magical thinking - the Administration would have loved every single day of furlough and weeping federal employees and the ability to blame the economic catastrophe of tariffs on the shutdown instead. It would have ended the same way - with the House refusing to take up anything else, and the Senate insisting that it was the House bill or nothing. And eventually the Democrats would have passed the House bill....and be in a far, far worse position.

The Democrats were able to hold out longer than expected because the voters ended up being split on who to blame for the shutdown - but the voters were still deeply unhappy that the government was shut down. The Democrats might have continued to reap some political gains by highlighting how much damage the OBBB did to the ACA structure. But the next election is a year away, the Democrats couldn't keep the government shut down for a year, and Trump doesn't care if he gets unpopular because he never has to run again.

The base wanted a fight, and it was - as expected - a fight the Democrats couldn't win. The suffering got to be too much for too many Democratic Senators to continue. So now the base got the fight, and face a choice whether to consider it a win that they got as much as they did, or be demoralized by the fact that it ended the way it was always going to end. From the OP, it looks like there's a good chance they'll choose the latter...
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