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At the New York Young Republican Club gala on Saturday, Orange Jesus told the audience one of his "a general told me, sir" stories, which like the proverbial fish tale becomes a bigger and bigger whopper with each rendition.

TRUMP: "I went onto that [debate] stage just a few days later, and a general, who's a fantastic general, actually said to me, 'Sir, I’ve been on the battlefield, men have gone down on my left and on my right, I stood on hills where soldiers were killed, but I believe the bravest thing I've ever seen was the night you went onto that stage with Hillary Clinton after what happened [the pussy tape was played], and then that woman asked you the first question about it, and [you] said 'locker room talk.'"

Orange Jesus, who lied about having bone spurs to get out of the draft during the Vietnam War, is braver than any man or woman who ever died in battle because he had the courage to walk onto a debate stage and lie.

Now imagine a democratic candidate for any office -- hell, or a republican for that matter -- who dodged the draft five times claiming to be braver than fallen combat heroes, the war dead -- and how quickly and rightly such an ugly and absurd claim would end their political career.

But his followers just bobble their heads and murmur, "Praise Orange Jesus, no one is braver and he will save us."

But it's not a cult.

https://nz.finance.yahoo.com/news/donald-trumps-st...

Trump Obsessed.

lol.


He's like Fossil Fuels - you Liberals can't get enough of it.

Orange Jesus, who lied about having bone spurs to get out of the draft during the Vietnam War, is braver than any man or woman who ever died in battle because he had the courage to walk onto a debate stage and lie.

There is no bigger liar than brain dead Joe Biden and the world knows it, Biden was a 5 times deferment during the Vietnam War because Joe was a football hero and the college team needed him.

Is this a fake? I mean, it certainly sounds like something idiotic that Trump would say, but I can't find any verification.

Do you have other sources?

Uh, no.

Everyone knows that Trump is a fantastic fabulist, a liar of epic proportions, well documented.

Tell us gain, LM, how you are not in the CULT.

Now imagine a democratic candidate for any office -- hell, or a republican for that matter -- who dodged the draft five times claiming to be braver than fallen combat heroes, the

And if you go back to events during Trump's visit to France in early Nov 2018....the Armistice Day Centenary....here are excerpts from a report of an article in the Atlantic, and an article in Military Times recounting Trump's refusal to attend the ceremony at the US Marine cemetary because soldiers who were killed or captured are losers. And he also didn't want to get his orange hair wet. So....if Trump wants now to picture himself as braver than a loser....I'm not going to argue with him!


FROM France24.com:
"US President Donald Trump referred to US Marines buried in a WWI cemetery in France as "losers" and "suckers" for getting killed in action, according to a report Thursday in the Atlantic magazine.

The report, penned by the magazine's editor-in-chief Jeffrey Goldberg, said Trump had refused to visit the Aisne-Marne American Cemetery near Paris in 2018 because "he feared his hair would become disheveled in the rain," although the official explanation offered by aides was that the helicopter due to take him there could not fly due to weather.

"In a conversation with senior staff members on the morning of the scheduled visit, Trump said, 'Why should I go to that cemetery? It's filled with losers,'" the article said.

https://www.france24.com/en/20200904-trump-passed-...

FROM: Military Times
A new report details multiple instances of President Donald Trump making disparaging remarks about members of the U.S. military who have been captured or killed, including referring to the American war dead at the Aisne-Marne American Cemetery in France in 2018 as “losers” and “suckers.”

The defense officials said Trump made the comments as he begged off visiting the cemetery outside Paris during a meeting following his presidential daily briefing on the morning of Nov. 10, 2018.

Staffers from the National Security Council and the Secret Service told Trump that rainy weather made helicopter travel to the cemetery risky, but they could drive there. Trump responded by saying he didn’t want to visit the cemetery because it was “filled with losers,” the official said, speaking on condition of anonymity because the official was not authorized to discuss it publicly.

https://www.militarytimes.com/news/pentagon-congre...

The fact that I can search SNOPES, youtube and google and can't find other references to this makes me doubt its veracity.

ges: The fact that I can search SNOPES, youtube and google and can't find other references to this makes me doubt its veracity.

I gave you the link to the video, fercryinoutloud. Scroll down the page to where it says "Watch the video here" and you can watch the words come out of Orange Jesus's own mouth. One of the problems with the media today is that they ignore the crazy that Trump spews everyday and have normalized his obnoxiousness and complete insanity.

SCROLL DOWN: https://nz.finance.yahoo.com/news/donald-trumps-st...

Yes, I realize you gave a link and I watched it. And I said it was believable, but we live in an age of deep fakes.

Just give me another source, that's all I'm asking. How could something like that not be on youtube? Or maybe I just haven't used the right arrangement of search words.

I'm perfectly willing to believe this is real, because Trump is such a low life, lying asshole. But I went to try and get a copy of the video off of youtube and could not find it. That surprised me.

The point of me asking for verification is that I don't want us to be swallowing bullshit like the right does.

So, can you give me a verifying link?

I'll go search some more...

Still can't find it elsewhere but maybe that's because it just happened. If so, it should be all over the place later and should be used in attack ads.

GES, scroll down the link. The General story is disgustingly there.

That clip of the OrangeRapist would be astounding if it was any one else. But his cult only here's the music of hatred for the same people.

Locker room talk he says, after being fined $5,000,000.00 dollars for sexual assault that is described as rape by an American judge.

His audience is too enthralled to connect those dots. $5,000,000. for sexual assault.
$130,000 to a porn actress.

Next sex related trial coming up: "March 25, 2024, he’ll face a jury on New York state criminal charges that he falsified business records in connection with hush money payments to a porn star."
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-64920037
OrangeJesus dodged the bullet on his McDougal sexcapades thanks to his buddy who paid off McDougal to sign an NDA and killed the story.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-57335148

Locker room talk, my ass. OJ got up on that stage and did what he does most: Lie.

" I mean, it certainly sounds like something idiotic that Trump would say, but I can't find any verification.
Do you have other sources? "


https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/4353502-desa...

ges: So, can you give me a verifying link?

ABC News reported it, though soft-peddled the crazy:

Trump on Saturday described how all of his political advisers, except Steve Bannon, encouraged him to drop out of the 2016 race after the video surfaced. Trump claimed that an unnamed general told him the "locker room talk" explanation he gave was the "bravest thing I've ever seen" over witnessing people die on the battlefield.

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trump-defends-infa...

Washington Press:

It’s a “sir” story! Trump says an anonymous general told him that, despite seeing soldiers fall on the battlefield, he’s never seen anyone act as bravely as Trump did when he joked about sexual assault.

Video included: https://washingtonpress.com/2023/12/10/trump-speec...

Daily Beast:

But you know, the next day, or very shortly thereafter, we had the debate... I went onto that stage just a few days later, and a general, who’s a fantastic general, actually said to me, 'Sir, I’ve been on the battlefield, men have gone down on my left and on my right, I stood on hills where soldiers were killed, but I believe the bravest thing I've ever seen was the night you went onto that stage with Hillary Clinton after what happened, and then that woman asked you the first question about it, and [you] said ‘locker room talk.'"

https://www.thedailybeast.com/trump-weirdly-tries-...

There are multiple sources but what's sad is that it's not in headlines everywhere as it deserves to be because it's just so batchit crazy and disgusting.

But again, the media fails to point out how unfit Trump is for office.

Aha. The progressives favorite and most credible source. Trump is toast

Trump responded by saying he didn’t want to visit the cemetery because it was “filled with losers,” the official said, speaking on condition of anonymity because the official was not authorized to discuss it publicly.

I'm perfectly willing to believe this is real, because Trump is such a low life, lying asshole. But I went to try and get a copy of the video off of youtube and could not find it. That surprised me.

The point of me asking for verification is that I don't want us to be swallowing bullshit like the right does.

So, can you give me a verifying link?

I'll go search some more... - ges

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Well put. With the rapid advances in AI, it soon will be such that we literally cannot discern the difference between a video of genuine reality and a studio production. That seems unavoidable and the damage to society beyond comprehension. Is there any way, really, to prevent this outcome?

bighairymike: Trump responded by saying he didn’t want to visit the cemetery because it was “filled with losers,” the official said, speaking on condition of anonymity because the official was not authorized to discuss it publicly.

John Kelly, Orange Jesus's former chief of staff, has gone on record:

In a statement to CNN published Monday, Kelly delivered a scathing criticism of former President Donald Trump while confirming reporting in The Atlantic in 2020 that detailed the comments he made during his presidency.

"A person that thinks those who defend their country in uniform, or are shot down or seriously wounded in combat, or spend years being tortured as POWs are all 'suckers' because 'there is nothing in it for them,'" Kelly said of Trump. "A person that did not want to be seen in the presence of military amputees because ‘it doesn’t look good for me.' A person who demonstrated open contempt for a Gold Star family -- for all Gold Star families -- on TV during the 2016 campaign, and rants that our most precious heroes who gave their lives in America’s defense are 'losers’ and wouldn't visit their graves in France."

Chief of staff.

Confirmed.

Yet you guys all stay deep in the cult of this disgusting moron.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/john...

Still can't find it elsewhere but maybe that's because it just happened. If so, it should be all over the place later and should be used in attack ads.

Here's a link to the full speech, but the comment is delivered like a joke. Joking about soldiers' deaths and sexual assault is appalling. Comparing a televised debate to combat is narcissistic, as Trump has no idea what combat is like. Sounds like a made-up story. Has any general come forward to claim their role? If an acting General made such a comment, they would surely lose the confidence of those serving in the military and many civilians as well.

At minute 17 in an 80 minute speech.
BREAKING NEWS: Trump Rails Against 'Biden Dictatorship' At New York Young Republicans Gala, December 10, 2023
Trump said "a general who's a fantastic general actually said to me sir I've been on the battlefield men have gone down on my left and on my right I stood on Hills where soldiers were killed but I believe the bravest thing I've ever seen was the night you went onto that stage with Hillary Clinton after what happened and then that woman asked you the first question about it and I said locker room talk"
https://youtu.be/vm-v5fkNXqk?t=1026

Chief of staff.

Confirmed.

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Opinion and hearsay.

Yet you guys all stay deep in the cult of this disgusting moron.

LOL!!

Speaking of morons....they support dementia, lame brain Joe Biden.

Hey left, have you paid attention how many illegal aliens are leisurely crossing our
border like they own America? Do any of you actually care?
Ya, thank you moron Biden.

bighairymike: Opinion and hearsay.


Here, let me help you so you don't hurt yourself...

Opinion: "a view or judgment formed about something, not necessarily based on fact or knowledge."

Kelly did not form an opinion, he heard Trump speak those actual words to him and provided a statement to the media to confirm that Trump actually made the vile comments that CNN had reported.


Hearsay: "unverified, unofficial information gained or acquired from another and not part of one's direct knowledge."

Kelly had direct knowledge. He heard Trump speak the words and wanted to go on record to confirm that Trump is a POS who made disparaging comments about soldiers killed in action and doesn't belong anywhere near the White House or as Commander in Chief ever again.

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/4353502-desa...

Thanks for the link.

What was making me cautious is that I just couldn't find other references to it, and it was so over the top even for Dumpf.

Now...don't you expect him to say he was just trying to be funny?

How, how, how, can anyone vote this execrable jerk.

ABC News reported it, though soft-peddled the crazy

Glad to see it is getting reported but pissed that it doesn't get more attention. Is it just because Trump says so many awful things?

Can you IMAGINE if a Democrat said something like that...just that one asinine statement? It would be a huge controversy and would be all over the right wing media from now until the election.

The cult will pass it off somehow, but mostly they don't really seem to feel the need.

How, how, how, can anyone vote this execrable jerk

Ask a silly question and you will get a serious answer..

How, how, how, can anyone vote for comatose Joe Biden and his open door border policy
bringing in thousands of illegal aliens into America non stop?

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/5000-illegal-immi...

Serious question: are you a one-issue voter? You seem only to post about the border.

Which, by the way, Biden has said is "broken". We really need Congress to step up and fix it, but there hasn't been any effort in the past ~10 years.

https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/434551...

(emphasis mine)
“I’ve made it clear that we need Congress to make changes to fix what is a broken immigration system, because we know, we all know it’s broken, and I’m willing to do significantly more,” Biden said in remarks at the White House. “But in terms of changes of policy and to provide resources we need at the border, I’m willing to change policy as well.”

I don't want to hijack this, so will reiterate "are you a one-issue voter"?

Which, by the way, Biden has said is "broken". We really need Congress to step up and fix it, but there hasn't been any effort in the past ~10 years.

Nope, don’t pass the buck. Biden’s first day in Office he rescinded all President Trumps border policies and declared our southern border is open..wide open.
All Biden has to do is reverse his open door policy by executive power same as he used his executive power to allow border wall construction in Texas at a pours gap for border crossing.

https://www.denverpost.com/2023/10/04/the-biden-ad...

A one issue voter? I take it the border issue is of no concern to you. The democrats know it is a big problem and some are speaking out on it.

And now the Heritage Foundation hosts Orban so they can discuss ways of defunding Ukraine. We used to be the leader of the free world and now 2 bit dictators openly interfere internally to assist Putin's bidding.

Now...don't you expect him to say he was just trying to be funny?

The cult cannot add $130,000 and $5,000,000.00 together to come up with =//= locker room talk, so yes, I absolutely expect them to swallow OJ's self-serving lies.

A one issue voter? I take it the border issue is of no concern to you.

Faulty assumption. And you didn't answer my question (not that you're required to, of course).

But, no, I'm not a one-issue voter, in general. I have multiple concerns. The border is on the list, though not at the top. It makes the top 5 on most days. But Congress has to act. The POTUS cannot do it alone, or by executive order. Any POTUS, not just Trump.

But Congress has to act. The POTUS cannot do it

Again, Biden’s executive orders opened the border,
Biden’s executive can close the border as well.

President Biden’s Executive Actions on Immigration

https://cmsny.org/biden-immigration-executive-acti...

LM: Nope, don’t pass the buck. Biden’s first day in Office he rescinded all President Trumps border policies and declared our southern border is open..wide open.
All Biden has to do is reverse his open door policy by executive power same as he used his executive power to allow border wall construction in Texas at a pours gap for border crossing

Except Biden didn't and left Title 42 in place. He did make the border more humane, but there wasn't an open border. There are still plenty of illegals working in the Dairy and farms industry around you though LM.

"Title 42, a COVID-19 public health restriction affecting migrants at the U.S.-Mexico border, expired on May 11, 2023, when the public health emergency for COVID-19 was lifted. This development alters three years of U.S. immigration policy, introducing both new opportunities and new risks. For the first time since March 2020, the United States will have to grapple with the public health, border control, humanitarian, legal, and ethical implications of a return to Title 8 — the standard, decades-old rules for enforcing immigration law."

"What Biden did: He defended keeping Title 42 in place, using the pandemic as justification.

Over 2.28 million people were expelled using Title 42 authority between January 2021 and March 2023, the last month for which data is available.

But when the US ended its coronavirus public health emergency on May 11, Title 42 expired with it."

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-65574725

https://www.carnegie.org/our-work/article/what-doe...

Title 42 is done and over with including the virus.

Biden’s broken border is America's shame. Illegal aliens are pouring into America from all over the world by the now millions.

Farm workers needed and more? Sure. Tell me though how the thousands of farm workers are faring in NYC and Chicago besides sucking up taxpayer money.

Sorry, there is no excuse for Biden’s you all come open border and trying to blame Trump and Congress for Biden’s shameful mess.

LurkerMom: Biden’s broken border is America's shame.

And now for some facts rather than opinions:

During the Trump administration, DHS made 1.4 million arrests -- what it calls "encounters" -- in fiscal years 2019 and 2020 (24 months). Of those people arrested, only 47 percent were removed as of December 31, 2021, which includes people arrested by Trump and removed by Biden, and 52 percent were released into the United States.

Under Biden, DHS made over 5 million arrests in its first 26.3 months, and it removed nearly 2.6 million -- 51 percent -- while releasing only 49 percent. In other words, the Trump DHS removed a minority of those arrested while the Biden DHS removed a majority. Biden managed to increase the removal share while also increasing the total removals by a factor of 3.5.

Under Title 42, illegal border crosser were expelled but were free to return over and over again. Under the Biden administration, people who cross illegally will be deported, barred from re-entering the US for at least five years, and be "presumed ineligible for asylum", according to Customs and Border Protection, a much harsher punishment than during the Trump years.

Let's be honest: republicans love illegal immigration. It feeds both their need for victimization and their hatred of "the other".

Republicans have never had an interest in solving the border crisis, an issue they totally ignored when they controlled government during the first two Trump years.

https://www.cato.org/blog/new-data-show-migrants-w....

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-65574725

commonone: “During the Trump administration”

Blah! Blah! Blah!

The American people see what is happening in the here and now of Biden’s disastrous
you all come in by the millions illegal aliens.

The American people and now many Democrat law makers are fed up, sick and tired of the drain of American hard earned tax money and resources being given for free to unvetted illegal aliens, laughing at us and given free reign to go anywhere in America and do as they please.

Can you hear the, ‘laughter, laughter, we ‘love you Biden’!

LM: Nope, don’t pass the buck. Biden’s first day in Office he rescinded all President Trumps border policies and declared our southern border is open..wide open.

LM, do you ever speak a WORD of truth?

LurkerMom: Biden’s broken border is America's shame.
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And now for some facts rather than opinions:

She....and those who drink from the same poisoned well....are unshakeably unable to see the facts. Sadly, you and everyone else who take the time to spell them out clearly and document them are reaching only those who have no difficulty in distinguishing between fact and maga-fiction.

I find this reality more frightening than I can put into words.

She....and those who drink from the same poisoned well....are unshakeably unable to see the facts.

AI will target these people and exploit their gullibility like never before.\

An AI robocaller called "Ashley" called thousands of Pennsylvania voters on behalf of Daniels. Like a seasoned campaign volunteer, Ashley analyzes voters' profiles to tailor conversations around their key issues. Unlike a human, Ashley always shows up for the job, has perfect recall of all of Daniels' positions, and does not feel dejected when she's hung up on.

"This is going to scale fast," said 30-year-old Ilya Mouzykantskii, the London-based CEO of Civox, the company behind Ashley. "We intend to be making tens of thousands of calls a day by the end of the year and into the six digits pretty soon. This is coming for the 2024 election and it's coming in a very big way. ... The future is now."


No rules directly apply to what Civox is doing. Federal Trade Commission regulations ban telemarketers from making robocalls to people on the Do Not Call Registry, but the list does not apply to political calls - and Civox's activity, with its "personalized" messages, does not qualify as robocalling.

The Federal Communications Commission prohibits campaign-related autodialed or prerecorded voice calls, including autodialed live calls to cell phones without the recipient's prior consent. The FCC is also beginning a formal inquiry into how AI technology impacts illegal and unwanted robocalls.

No government agency has been able to stop the robocalls to my landline (RIP) or to my cellphone. There is no way to stop robocallers from offshore meddling (Anti-USA governments will be huge users of this new technology), convincing the gullibles that USA University cafeterias serve fetus sandwiches.

"This is going to scale fast," said 30-year-old Ilya Mouzykantskii, the London-based CEO of Civox, the company behind Ashley. "We intend to be making tens of thousands of calls a day by the end of the year and into the six digits pretty soon. This is coming for the 2024 election and it's coming in a very big way. ... The future is now."

gaaaaaaahhhhh!

And they are proud of this. We are so screwed.

There is the federal no-call list. But as near as I can tell, there is zero enforcement. They need to give that a lot of teeth. Harder to enforce overseas (though we could extradite the miscreants, if we have an extradition treaty).

Google is actually really good at screening calls on my cellphone. Very few bad calls get through, and very few good calls get dropped.

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