Halls of Shrewd'm / US Policy
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They're out of water:
https://x.com/IranIntl_En/status/19914097016033774...ranian President Masoud Pezeshkian said on Thursday that relocating the country’s capital from Tehran has become unavoidable due to overcrowding and water shortages.
Pezeshkian told a meeting in Qazvin that Tehran cannot sustain more construction or population growth and that transferring water from the Persian Gulf would be extremely costly. He said Iran lacked the funds when the plan was first raised, but now the move is a necessity.
The government has proposed the underdeveloped Makran region in southeastern Iran as a possible new capital, though officials have given no timeline for the plan.Persistent drought + infrastructure neglect.
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We old pharts remember when Brazilia was first built.
Steve
No. of Recommendations: 1
Persistent drought + infrastructure neglect.
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Even with some of the Climate and Green Crap - i feel building infrastructure or improving it, is 'America first' all around.
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Even with some of the Climate and Green Crap - i feel building infrastructure or improving it, is 'America first' all around.
The problem is that many don't understand what the word "infrastructure" means. It's all that unsexy stuff like roads, reservoirs, dams, power transmission systems and pipelines (water, oil and gas).
No. of Recommendations: 4
The problem is that many don't understand what the word "infrastructure" means. It's all that unsexy stuff like roads, reservoirs, dams, power transmission systems and pipelines (water, oil and gas).Yeah. Republicans don't understand that word, and so ignore it until it fails.
A better source than Xhitter:
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cy4p2yzmem0oI don't think infrastructure is the main problem. They have dams, and had reservoirs. But they don't have much rain, so the reservoirs aren't being filled. We're seeing the same thing in the American Southwest, where lakes Powell and Mead are both near record lows (since they originally filled decades ago). The problem here is inefficient agriculture (i.e. growing water-intensive crops), and too many people sucking too much water in an area (i.e. desert) that isn't really suited to supporting that kind of population (i.e. not much rain). I don't claim to be an expert on Iranian infrastructure. However, I suspect their main problem is similar to ours (i.e. drought). If you don't have groundwater wells, and you don't have rain, then you don't have water.
At least Iran has a sea nearby. They could build desalination plants. Arizona really can't.
It will be interesting (and remarkable) if they actually evacuate Tehran. I doubt that will happen. But a large migration of a significant chunk of the population may happen organically as people seek someplace where they can survive.
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They should make Mamdani their new Ayatollah. He can then declare "Free water for everyone!" So let it be written. So let it be done.
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Republicans don't understand that word, and so ignore it until it failYeah. That explains California, who, despite having access to billions of gallons of water every year, can't figure out what a reservoir does. Oh, wait - Republicans haven't run that state in a long time.
It will be interesting (and remarkable) if they actually evacuate Tehran. I doubt that will happen. They're making plans to move the seat of government someplace they can actually deliver water to.
And to buttress the point about neglecting infrastructure:
https://www.tehrantimes.com/news/492429/Beyond-a-m...For instance, the Alborz mountain range, within easy reach of the Iranian capital, Tehran, hosts some of the world’s most captivating ski resorts: Dizin, Tochal, Shemshak, and Darbandsar.Huh. 3 ski resorts and ~10,000ft of elevation implies snow.
Surpassing heights of 3963 meters, Tochal proudly claims its spot as the fifth-highest resort globally, ensuring an extended ski season from December to April, sometimes stretching into June.
Despite Iran’s reputation for warm weather, these resorts boast a winter season that extends from November to May, thanks to their lofty altitudes. The terrain caters to skiers of all levels, from beginners to seasoned veterans, providing ample opportunities for thrilling descents and backcountry exploration.
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Oh, wait - Republicans haven't run that state in a long time.
No shit, Sherlock.
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Been reading about Texas looming water crisis too... which is being exacerbated by development of water-gulping crypto and AI installations. Ain't AI and crypto great?
"Texas is facing a significant water shortage due to a growing population, outdated infrastructure, and climate change impacts like drought. Without effective solutions, the state's water supply may not meet demand by 2030, prompting lawmakers to consider substantial investments to address the crisis."Tick tock muthahfuckahs.
https://www.texasstandard.org/stories/will-texas-a...
No. of Recommendations: 1
Lack of water is not going to be a problem for Texas or anywhere else in the U.S. by 2030.
In 2028, when King Mamdani is unanimously elected President of the U.S., on his first day in office, he will declare:
"Free water for everyone!!!" So let it be written. So let it be done.
No. of Recommendations: 3
The problem is that many don't understand what the word "infrastructure" means. It's all that unsexy stuff like roads, reservoirs, dams, power transmission systems and pipelines (water, oil and gas).
On the local news tonight, a proposed data center in Howell Township has been put on hold, for at least 6 months, but the township board. Meanwhile, DTE is trying to force through a data center in Saline Township. These are both rural areas that don't have diddly in industrial scale infrastructure.
The city of Detroit has finished tearing down about 90% of the old Packard factory. That parcel, has industrial scale infrastructure already in place. Why the heck doesn't someone put a data center there? Oh, I know. The data center developers think they can get the local taxpayers to pay for the infrastructure their data centers need, for them.
Steve...welfare for the "JCs", Proles pay cash
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Huh. 3 ski resorts and ~10,000ft of elevation implies snow.
Yes, it does. However, what the snowmelt does is what is critical. For example, here in the Southwest, we have the Colorado River. It is fed primarily from snowmelt from the Colorado Rockies. It does not run through Denver (where I went to high school). Denver, when I was there, had water restrictions based on your address (even vs odd number). You couldn't wash your car, or windows, or water your lawn on certain days.
The snowmelt primarily travels westward, where the River forms and flows southwest. It feeds Utah, Nevada, Arizona, and California. And some of the western slope of Colorado (where there are no major towns).
I am not an authority on Iran's situation, but if the snowmelt goes a different way, it may do Tehran no good at all (just like Denver).
Also, weak snowfall in the Rockies results in weak run-off, and the River doesn't flow as strongly. That has happened several times over the past 20 years.
It's very possible that Iran is messing up. Wouldn't surprise me at all. It's also possible that weather and terrain are working against them. I suspect it's a combination of both things. I find no credible information that Iran is planning to evacuate Tehran, and at least one official has said it "makes no sense at all".
Which is likely correct. There's over 9M people in Tehran. Not really practical to relocate them.
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The city of Detroit has finished tearing down about 90% of the old Packard factory. That parcel, has industrial scale infrastructure already in place. Why the heck doesn't someone put a data center there? Oh, I know. The data center developers think they can get the local taxpayers to pay for the infrastructure their data centers need, for them.Because data centers can require up to 100MW(!) of power generation; that Packard facility was built in ~1908 and went offline in 1958. It's highly unlikely that the surrounding area wouldn't require the same upgrades that a rural region would, too.
Plus for security reasons a lot of data centers tend to be located in the middle of nowhere. You can see where Google parks theirs:
https://datacenters.google/locations/
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However, what the snowmelt does is what is critical. For example, here in the Southwest, we have the Colorado River. It is fed primarily from snowmelt from the Colorado Rockies. It does not run through Denver (where I went to high school). Denver, when I was there, had water restrictions based on your address (even vs odd number). You couldn't wash your car, or windows, or water your lawn on certain days.
...which is why one constructs reservoirs and aqueducts, kind of like how the Romans figured out ~2,000 years ago.
There's over 9M people in Tehran. Not really practical to relocate them.
They're more likely to move the seat of government and then the population figure it out. BTW Tehran is sinking at a rate of about a foot per year because they've pumped out all their groundwater and the earth is moving. I doubt many of those buildings there are able to structurally handle that kind of shifting around all that well...
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Because data centers can require up to 100MW(!) of power generation; that Packard facility was built in ~1908 and went offline in 1958. It's highly unlikely that the surrounding area wouldn't require the same upgrades that a rural region would, too.
Lessee....The DTE Conner's Creek powerplant was torn down only a few years ago. DTE doesn't state a power capacity in MW. iirc, it is said data centers require enough power to run 1M homes. Connor's Creek could power 400,000 homes, when it was operating. That land is now a car storage lot for the Stellantis Jefferson North assembly plant. That site is about 4 miles, as the crow flies, from the Packard site.
The DTE Trenton plant site is about 27 miles downriver from the Packard site. The original Trenton plant could generate 1,060MW. The Trenton site is being rebuilt as a storage battery site, with a 1,100MW capacity.
Offhand, I would say the Detroit grid could easily support an additional 100MW of draw. Remember, the Detroit city grid was built to support nearly double the population the city has now.
People are fretting about how much cooling water a data center needs. The Packard site is less than four miles from the Detroit River.
The Packard site already has water and sewer service.
The Packard site is already contaminated.
Why rip up productive farmland?
Steve
No. of Recommendations: 1
You can see where Google parks theirs:
Cool link. I wouldn't call Mesa, AZ "the middle of nowhere", but many of the sites were pretty remote. I drove by a Google sign in the Mesa area recently. Was surprised to see it. Maybe that's what that marker was.
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...which is why one constructs reservoirs and aqueducts, kind of like how the Romans figured out ~2,000 years ago.
They have reservoirs. They're just mostly empty due to lack of rain.
They're more likely to move the seat of government and then the population figure it out.
That would make more sense. Though the humanitarian crisis of 9M people without water would be monumental.
BTW Tehran is sinking at a rate of about a foot per year because they've pumped out all their groundwater and the earth is moving.
Did not know that. That's a really high rate of subsidence. I'm surprised buildings aren't already toppling.
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]The problem is that many don't understand what the word "infrastructure" means. It's all that unsexy stuff like roads, reservoirs, dams, power transmission systems and pipelines (water, oil and gas).
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True - to an extent.
but the projects that Republicans are bragging about in their districts after opposing them might have some merit. Not to mention, work for Americans----Americans that i'm fine with putting first.
Also my pickle is: While the mullets, tattoos, and baby daddiy bro's on my side are extolling their family values, being passionate about......vaccines and tylenol.......I rarely see the same emphasis on infrastructure, or that health plan that will beat ObamaCare.
So at times --it's either the Tyrone Taliban (Taliban, became my side has become that. Tyrone....because there's a certain word that is bad that we dont use....but it's fitting lower class whites more and more and they know it....) or having to support these "green" onfrastructure things.
Sadly, *some* worthy infrastructure and *some* people getting health insurance---I feel is better than Mullah Cody and Mullah Kayleigh never having read a book in their lives.
Dope1, our side is getting poorer and dumber. It's been that way awhile, but now---they are proud of it and openly advertise it.
Some of the best things done for 'our' red state voters....MediCaid, MediCare, SocialSecurity, ObamaCare, Infrastructure jobs.....sadly.....is from the Liberals.
Pains me to say it. Pains me even more to see 'our side' take those things from our own voters.
