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No. of Recommendations: 29
Wouldn’t it be great if Vance and his team could negotiate an agreement where Iran doesn’t enrich above 3.6% instead of the 60% they had, gets rid of 98% of its stockpile, has weekly inspections by an international agency, keeps the Hormuz Strait open, doesn’t charge anyone, and commits to it for at least 10 years?
How great would that be?
Oh, and that’s what we had with Obama’s Iran deal.
No. of Recommendations: 10
How great would that be?
Oh, and that’s what we had with Obama’s Iran deal.
That is a pretty big obstacle to the war ending. Trump probably can't afford, politically, to get less than what Obama got in the JCPOA. But Iran is pretty unlikely to agree to more than Obama got in the JCPOA, especially since they probably (correctly) don't trust Trump to honor any agreement he reaches.
No. of Recommendations: 7
But Iran is pretty unlikely to agree to more than Obama got in the JCPOA, According to the Omani mediator, Iran was offering more than they did in the JCPOA, but trump The Conqueror would not take "yes" for an answer.
February 27, 2026
U.S.-Iran deal is "within our reach," Omani mediator says
Albusaidi — who has mediated several rounds of U.S.-Iran talks over the last month — told "Face the Nation" moderator Margaret Brennan that a "peace deal is within our reach."
He said Iran has agreed that it will "never, ever have … nuclear material that will create a bomb," which he called a "big achievement." The country's existing stockpiles of enriched uranium would be "blended to the lowest level possible" and "converted into fuel, and that fuel will be irreversible," according to Albusaidi.
And Iran is willing to grant inspectors from the U.N.'s International Atomic Energy Agency "full access" to its nuclear sites to verify the terms of the deal, said Albusaidi. https://www.cbsnews.com/news/us-iran-deal-within-o...Expectations of rational behavior didn't age well, did they?
Steve
No. of Recommendations: 13
Trump probably can't afford, politically, to get less than what Obama got in the JCPOA.
Sure he can, because Fox and Newsmax and such will never do an honest side-by-side comparison because that would undercut their entire reason for being for the past 20 months.
So they will allow all the administration spokespeople on to blather about how great a deal it was, and MAGA, who allow no other news into their world, will believe it. That’s not enough to get elected next time, of course, but Trump doesn’t care about that anyway. Vance might, but he’s a lap dog along with Rubio and the rest, so they’ll stay quiet.
And we will have a much worse deal, a shitty economy, and DonOld will blame it on Biden.
Rinse, repeat.
No. of Recommendations: 5
Sure he can, because Fox and Newsmax and such will never do an honest side-by-side comparison because that would undercut their entire reason for being for the past 20 months.
I still think it's really unpleasant for him. Fox and Newsmax might not do such a comparison, but there are plenty of others who speak to the MAGA base who will - and who aren't happy about the war in the first place. Not just the Tuckers and Owenses and Joneses and Greenes. The manosphere and podcasters (esp. Rogan) and other folks who hold vast influence among the MAGA audience will be quick to criticize the war effort if it ends up producing outcomes that are worse than the JCPOA. Unlike a lot of other issues where he's been able to skate, there's a sizable chunk of the MAGA base that was genuinely skeptical of this right from jump.
I don't think there's a debate over enrichment percentages and inspection protocols that hurts him. Those sorts of details will certainly get lost in the shouting. Where he suffers if he comes out of this with a "deal" that is basically Iran getting a ton of money and relief from sanctions but they still get to have uranium and nuclear enrichment for a domestic energy industry but they promise they won't have nukes. I think that's going to be too much for both the Iran Hawks (Graham) and the war skeptics (Rogan, et. al.) to let go. No one will be happy with that outcome.