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Halls of Shrewd'm / US Policy
No. of Recommendations: 14
Tens of thousands of average Americans in Minneapolis are meeting the moment, turning out yesterday in 20 below zero temperatures to protest ICE thugs in their city.
Minneapolis is not accepting what's happening there.
ICE shot a young woman in the face, murdered her, and despite the president and his official state news channel, in an effort to turn the community against the protesters, gleefully claimed she deserved to be shot in the face, Minnesotans have actually become more united, more activated, and more involved in support of their city against ICE.
They know bullshit when they see it and smell it.
The democratic politicians, the business community, the elite technocrats who still refuse to join these average Americans and to follow in their footsteps in resistance of these Nazi thugs should forever hang their heads in eternal shame.
No. of Recommendations: 2
Tens of thousands of average Americans in Minneapolis are meeting the moment, turning out yesterday in 20 below zero temperatures to protest ICE thugs in their city.No they are not average Americans, they are ICE hating democrat left wing moonbat crazies marching to protect murderers, rapists, stealing tax payers monies and other assorted left wing law breaking illegal aliens.
Meanwhile....REAL Americans who love their Country, respect Law and Order and the sanctity of life
march peacefully in DC.
SNIP
“WASHINGTON — Tens of thousands of pro-life advocates gathered in the nation’s capital Friday for the 53rd annual March for Life, marching from the National Mall to the Supreme Court to voice their opposition to abortion.
This year’s event unfolded under unusually mild January weather, allowing participants to move steadily through the streets of Washington, even as the city prepares for a potentially paralyzing winter storm later in the weekend.”
https://www.ncregister.com/news/march-for-life-202...
No. of Recommendations: 3
The population of Minneapolis is over 400,000.
Very likely those "tens of thousands" of "protestors" aren't all from Minneapolis, and many are likely from out of state.
But you're saying maybe 5% of the population--O.K. let's call it 10% to give you the benefit of the doubt--get to determine state and federal immigration policy in Minneapolis?
That's not just a minority, it's a fringe minority.
People who disagree with the fringe minority, at least most of them, know better than to go out on the street and counter-protest. Who wants to get beat up and attacked? Normal people don't. Also, they have jobs, school, and families keeping them quite busy most of the time.
You don't believe in democracy, do you.
You're so proud of your radical left heckler's veto.
But that's all it is.
You prefer violence over democracy.
No. of Recommendations: 15
You prefer violence over democracy.
We prefer liberty over tyranny.
No. of Recommendations: 15
wzambon (quoting some moronic grayling): You prefer violence over democracy.
There was no “unrest” in Minneapolis before ICE and CBP showed up. ICE and CBP are the cause of the chaos, and the killings.
If the democrats cannot fashion a successful “DEFUND ICE” campaign now, they're worthless.
BTW, there were zero incidents of violence by protesters in Minneapolis yesterday.
No. of Recommendations: 1
voice their opposition to abortion.
The majority of Americans favor the availability of abortion. So, how SMALL does the MINORITY have to be to (NOT) override the wishes of the majority?
No. of Recommendations: 4
And now the military police have orders to be ready to deploy to Minneapolis. That is just sooooo messed up.
This is the coup playbook in action. As noted before, 1poorlady lived through the Marcos era. The Felon is following that playbook pretty closely. She is expecting a declaration of martial law (and canceling of elections) relatively soon. Just like Marcos.
No. of Recommendations: 2
Very likely those "tens of thousands" of "protestors" aren't all from Minneapolis, and many are likely from out of state.
Define YOUR term "many are likely from out of state". You are being called on your BS.
90+% are from the local area. Local as WE call it, not anti-Americans such as you.
No. of Recommendations: 1
And now the military police have orders to be ready to deploy to Minneapolis.
Now for the joke of the century (other than Spankee and his sycophants).
The MN Nat Guard Military Police (100+ people) have been assigned to the Middle East for a year. They come back in early 2027.
No. of Recommendations: 1
If the democrats cannot fashion a successful “DEFUND ICE” campaign now, they're worthless.ICE has a legitimate role to play, as does the Border Patrol. "Defund ICE" is exactly the sort of extreme rhetoric the right uses to discredit all opposition, just as they used "defund the police" against all opposition. Agitating local citizen populations is *not* their role, however.
If the democrats cannot fashion a successful “DEFUND ICE” campaign now, they're worthless.fwiw, seven Dems in the House just voted to give ICE another $10B
Seven House Democrats help MAGA pass $10B in new funding for ICEhttps://augustafreepress.com/news/seven-house-demo...Steve
No. of Recommendations: 12
Steve203: ICE has a legitimate role to play...
Not in Minnesota.
Steve203: fwiw, seven Dems in the House just voted to give ICE another $10B
Hopefully, they just ended their political careers.
BTW, a majority of Americans had an unfavorable view of ICE... before today's killing.
No. of Recommendations: 0
ICE has a legitimate role to play, as does the Border Patrol. "Defund ICE" is exactly the sort of extreme rhetoric the right uses to discredit all opposition, just as they used "defund the police" against all opposition. Agitating local citizen populations is *not* their role, however.
Yeah, the optics of that isn't good in election cycles. The "defund the police" was used as a bludgeon to say that "leftists" didn't want law and order. Same for ICE. They do have a legitimate role to play. They're just not playing it right now, per the orders of the Felon.
No. of Recommendations: 1
BTW, a majority of Americans had an unfavorable view of ICE... before today's killing.
Doesn't matter. Polls show 80% of Republicans approve of the brutality and violence. We will see if the murders impact that polling. All God On Earth Trump has to do is fix it so only Republican votes are counted.
One of the General Rants of over 20 years ago talked about US government sponsored terrorism. Here we are.
Steve
No. of Recommendations: 6
onepoorguy: Yeah, the optics of that isn't good in election cycles. The "defund the police" was used as a bludgeon to say that "leftists" didn't want law and order.
Fine, if not "defund," then "abolish."
Border Patrol, yes. ICE, no.
Time for democrats to grow a pair. Today's murder of Alex Pretti should effectively kill the DHS funding bill in the Senate.
No. of Recommendations: 2
Time for democrats to grow a pair.
More to the point, it's time for all of us to write or call our Senators, as well as Chuck Schumer and remind them to grow a pair, use one of the few levers of power available to them, and defund/abolish ICE.
I just did so- both of my Senators, as well as Chuckie.
My message to Elissa Slotkin was merely to encourage her to keep up the good work.
Gary Peters.... I think his pending retirement has him already checking out....
Chuckie? Good grief, where to start? Basically my message to him was "Grow a spine".
No. of Recommendations: 1
I just did so- both of my Senators, as well as Chuckie.
I wrote to Peters, some years ago. Eventually received a reply, that had nothing to do with what I wrote about. Wrote him off as an empty suit then. So he's leaving the Senate. No loss.
Slotkin is probably going to wind up in prison, on a Sedition charge, for her participation in that video about not obeying illegal orders. For the non-Michigan people on the board, she is ex-CIA.
Steve
No. of Recommendations: 3
No, you believe in tyranny, not liberty.
You believe in the tyranny of a mob who is vastly in the political minority but is more than willing to use force and violence to frustrate the will of the people, as expressed in federal legislation as executed by federal law enforcement officers.
All because you lost an election.
No. of Recommendations: 3
The attempted coup is by the Progressive rioters.
It's your own little Whiskey Rebellion except you guys are smoking crack.
No. of Recommendations: 2
Protesting in -20F? There’s your proof positive that AWFLs are dumb.
No. of Recommendations: 2
One of my senators is Mark Kelly. Pretty sure I don't have to write him to motivate him. :-)
Apparently, almost all the House Dems voted against a funding bill for DHS. It passed (because Reps have a majority), but it almost certain to fail in the Senate as it requires at least 7 Dems to defect. The Dems want much tighter restrictions on ICE agents before they will approve any funding.
I still think "abolish" would be bad optics. Perhaps make them obey all the other rules LEOs have to obey (like seeing their faces, being put on leave if they shoot someone pending investigation, etc).
No. of Recommendations: 9
onepoorguy:I still think "abolish" would be bad optics. Perhaps make them obey all the other rules LEOs have to obey (like seeing their faces, being put on leave if they shoot someone pending investigation, etc).
Umm, what now? So, you're gonna' just take Trump and Noem and Bovino and Hegseth at their word?
Yeah, this is the time when Charlie Brown actually kicks that football.
Really.
Really, no shit, really.
ICE is Trump's private Gestapo. He'll never call them off.
Also, where are those damn Epstein files?
No. of Recommendations: 3
The Dems want much tighter restrictions on ICE agents before they will approve any funding.
The dems aren’t going to shut the government down - again - over ICE.
No. of Recommendations: 4
The dems aren’t going to shut the government down - again - over ICE.
The Reps shut it down last time. At least they are getting most of the blame. Dems would get the blame for this one. But ICE is so staggeringly unpopular (only 36% last I saw), a majority of people appear likely to support it.
But it isn't really shutting down everything. It specified a DHS funding bill, which appears to be one of six bills that are a "spending package". Only the one(s) funding DHS are in jeopardy.
Any bill that funds DHS must include explicit, enforceable, provisions regarding the conduct and training of ICE officers. Otherwise, shut it down until we seat a new -probably much more centrist- Congress.
No. of Recommendations: 3
The Reps shut it down last time. At least they are getting most of t
No they didn’t. That was all Chuck Schumer.
Any Congress with a near majority of democrats is not centrist by any means. The extreme left runs that party.
No. of Recommendations: 3
Pretty sure I don't have to write him to motivate him. :-)
Same here with Padila and Schiff.
I still think "abolish" would be bad optics. Perhaps make them obey all the other rules LEOs have to obey (like seeing their faces, being put on leave if they shoot someone pending investigation, etc).
Agreed. Dems need to stress that the diff between ChiefDeporterObama and FoxTrump is the blatant militant spectacle promoted by the FoxTrump admin...the sheer callous disregard for the humanity of everybody... the promotion of racism and bigotry.
No. of Recommendations: 3
Dope 1,
It's beyond extreme Left.
These are the organized anarchists with mental health issues who only want to destroy the society that they were too brain damaged to fit into.
They HATE normality.
The Dem pols cynically have given them "license to be mentally ill" and "license to riot."
The object is simply destruction, nihilism.
They don't care about immigrants (legal or illegal). They don't care about the little children. They don't care about Gaza. They don't care about climate change. They don't care about Black lives. They don't care about "reproductive rights." They don't care about Renee Good. They don't care about Pretti Boi. They don't care about George Floyd.
Those are all just their superficial pretexts for expressing anarchism and nihilism, which are manifestations of their shared delusions and mental illnesses.
They certainly don't care about democracy nor do they care about the rule of law.
A very small very mentally ill fringe minority has been given free license to "express themselves" by the very cynical pols in places like Minneapolis and in the Dem Party as a whole.
It is straight from the revolutionary's playbook.
Cause chaos and destruction. Drive the normal people who can get out of there, out of there.
Then: the TAKEOVER.
No. of Recommendations: 4
No they didn’t. That was all Chuck Schumer.
Nope. It was Johnson. Back in the day, it never would have happened. Unless you have a supermajority, you negotiate. You bargain. For the past few decades, that hasn't been the case (except for Boehner...and his party slit his throat). Johnson refused to negotiate or compromise. That's on Johnson. Why should the minority party vote for anything if they get nothing out of it?
Any Congress with a near majority of democrats is not centrist by any means. The extreme left runs that party.
That's your opinion. I disagree. There are certainly some extreme elements in the party. Biden was pretty centrist. So was Harris. So was Obama. Etc.
No need to give any examples of extremist Reps. It would be more illustrative to find some centrist Reps...can't think of any off the top of my head, but I'm sure there must be a few. Certainly none in the current administration. Maybe 5 or 6 in Congress, based on their willingness to break with party ranks?
